I just line em up for some one to knock down, in this case is was nitpickwit who roll a ball a bowled.

well Obama is officially the democratic guy so its fair to say this guy does stand a chance of being president but i will be still surprised if he does... many stand up black American comedians will lose a lot of material if a black guy becomes president as it is opposite of what there material often states that government and officials are white etc etc a bit like the golf jokes about golf being an institutionally racist sport are much thinner on the ground now a black guy is the best player on the planet.

not a reason to or not to pick Obama as a president but i will still be surprised it happens

mr. griffiths,
is the reason you will be shocked, have anything to do with race? as you stated, set them up and someone will knock them down. i know from your posts, you arent that simple;)

I believe that quite a sizeable amount of voters regardless of what they say in public will take colour as a factor in how they actually vote .
I suspect that prejudice is one of the factors that will make people vote for someone else .
I don't think its the only reason and i think many will vote for someone else purely on the actual policies but i also believe that many will vote for someone else purely on race and that goes both ways that some will not vote for Mc Cain because he is white.

In recognition of the minor miracle in getting Hereford United FC from the Conference to League One (on a budget that could barely be called a cotton thread let alone a shoestring) Graham Turner (Hereford United owner, major shareholder, chairman, manager and general dogsbody) was honoured with last season's League Two manager of the year award. Uniquely, however, HUFC did not win the League Two title (we came third) so the agent of the manager whose team did (Paul Ince - MK Dons), and latterly a commentator in the Sunday Mirror newspaper, has claimed that the decision was racially motivated; Paul Ince being coloured.

Alas there will always be someone prepared to play the race card.

McCain is a senile, war mongering, continuation of the worst political mess and general management of the country we have EVER had.
Because of Bush we have alienated ourselves from most of the rest of the world, our economy is a disaster, oil prices have gone from 27$ a barrel to 140$ a barrel, and today on TV McCain said it wasn't "important" how much longer we would be in Iraq.

I'm sorry, but he is an idiot...

OBAMA WILL WIN IN 08.

Please provide evidence to back up your claims.

First, McCain is nothing like Bush.

Second, the Iraq statement needs to be taken in context.

Want to talk about lack of smarts? Look at Obama.

And I'm a Democrat on top of it all.

How can you say that?


What context? "It's not important how long we are there??"



Top of his class at Harvard. Has run a top notch campaign.

Too bad he surrounds himself with racists,self-proclaimed anti-American 'activests'(terrorists in this day and age),and a wife that was never proud to be an American until he decided to run for President........:-(

I'm sure the middle-east will be estatic if he wins.........

At least you still have the benefit of a democracy.

Yeah, and look where it gets us......:-(

But you still have a choice . . . albeit Hobson's.

Christopher Booker's Diary (Sunday Telegraph) 15/06/2008

When Irish noes are smiling after referendum on European Union's Lisbon Treaty

That sensational referendum result from Ireland called the bluff on one of the most shameless confidence tricks in political history.

Seven years ago, Europe's leaders decided that, as the consummation of their great "project", they would draw up a Constitution for Europe. After extending its powers for nearly 50 years, often by subterfuge and deception, the European Union could emerge in its true light on the world stage, as an all-powerful, supranational government.

Under the Laeken Declaration of 2001, full of references to "democracy" and the need to bring "Europe closer to its people", they set up a convention which spent 18 months drafting the constitution, tightly controlled at every point by its president, Valéry Giscard d'Estaing.
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For 18 months more they fine-tuned its details until it was ready to be ratified, by compliant national parliaments or by the referendums which various governments had been reluctantly forced to concede.

Then came that shocking moment in 2005 when the constitution was thrown out by the voters of France and Holland. The EU's leaders were stunned, and bemused as to what to do next.

Then, last summer, they came up with a breathtakingly bold plan. They would rearrange the contents of the constitution in a way that made it virtually incomprehensible, omit the provocative references to a constitution, and railroad it through their parliaments without risking any more referendums - except for the only country, Ireland, whose constitution made one unavoidable.

At least most of the EU's leaders were honest enough to admit that the new treaty and the old constitution were the same. Only Gordon Brown, to justify breaking his election promise of a referendum, pretended that the two documents were somehow quite different. He was so determined to get the treaty through that he did not even allow Parliament to discuss it properly.

His own party and the Lib Dems (with one or two honourable exceptions) are now so wedded to the lie that last Wednesday they jostled together through a Lords lobby to vote down the last hope of the referendum that both had promised.

Then came that Irish referendum, the one detail that the EU's political class had not been able to stitch up. At the last minute, a tiny portion of the peoples of Europe had, once again, been able to speak up, in a way denied to all the rest. Again the leaders were stunned - but this time they were ready.

In coming days we shall see the degrading spectacle of them wheeling out their long-prepared formula for ignoring the Irish verdict, and imposing their constitution-by-any-other-name regardless. The European project will be revealed for what it has been all along: a mighty system of state power, run by the political class with lofty contempt for the people it rules.

But at least we shall be able to remember that vote by the people of Ireland, as a last glorious gesture of Europe's dying democracy, before it is blotted out by the subtlest and most audacious coup d'état in history.

And it's already started . . .

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk]

I like everybody around RC a lot, so I think I'll bow out of any political discussions. We are all entitled to our opinions, and we all have formed our opinions and political ideologies from our peers parents, and geographic locations.



peace.

Fancy your chances at religion instead?

LOL! Uh... no I don't think that works very well either, nor does discussion about gun control or global warming! ;>)

The Irish vote said no but they are still trying to push ahead with it anyway ..its hard to start going on about other countries unfair elections when they try to go around a no vote... but two faced politicians do :(