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| Topic: | HDMI reliability This thread has 17 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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| Post 1 made on Monday February 27, 2006 at 10:57 |
360media Long Time Member |
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Two weeks ago I installed a 42" fujitsu plasma My audio is fine. The video is a headache. The designer sold the customer on HDMI cables passing from the oppo dvd,scientific atlantic 8300hd cable dvr, passing thru the denon 4306 to the plasma.
As a rule I educate a customer to HDMI but I do not install it unless It is demanded and I get it in writing that any problems with it is considered a service call and they pay. I do not see the advantage of it. Now this guys cable box is rejecting the HDMI and now I am stuck with" I told you so..." In my head. In audio, digital coax is iinstalled ove fiber due to the reliability, and cost. Is this the same with HDMI?
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| Post 2 made on Monday February 27, 2006 at 11:02 |
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all i can say is fire the designer cuz he sucks.... good luck..... have the designer deal with this bullshit
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| Post 3 made on Monday February 27, 2006 at 11:21 |
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I agree they suck for multiple reasons! The SA cable boxes in our area (Charter) have all had problems trying to use DVI/HDMI. No major problems with Motorola cable boxes (Comcast) and DVI. I'm not sure if it is the box or the provider but component is always the safe bet.
Bob
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| Post 4 made on Monday February 27, 2006 at 12:23 |
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HDMI has to go, I can't count how many service calls I had to go on because someone moved the dvd plaeyer forward and the cable popped out. Salespeople need to stop promoting HDMI so much, and Sounds and Vision should only be sold to installers. Nothing is worse than a customer who knows what they need better than the installer because an article in S&V said it was the best. Ill get off my pedistal now.
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| Post 5 made on Monday February 27, 2006 at 12:59 |
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I agree that HDMI is dodgy, but we've been installing it along w/component video for this reason: what will you tell your customer when Blu-Ray and/or HD-DVD players become mainstream, and the way to achieve full resolution is via a digital interface?
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| Post 6 made on Monday February 27, 2006 at 16:30 |
Brentm Ethereal Home Theater |
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Yes HDMI has problems.
BUT IT IS THE FUTURE, PERIOD.
Get used to it
Educate your client on the advantages of prewiring for it EVEN if you do not deploy it today. Most of the switching problems are from faulty firmware provided to the mfgr's (not the fault of the receiver mfgr.).
It is recommened that you secure the cables with a velcro strip behind the gear.
Buy your HDMI product from a company THAT IS CERTIFIED (and can provide you the documentation). If you are doing a prewire with HDMI, test the cable BEFORE install, AFTER you have made the run and again before you hookup the gear. There are testors available (mine is the Ethereal Tester, checks continuity on all pairs).
This is with us for the next 5-8 years learn how to use it.
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| Post 7 made on Monday February 27, 2006 at 16:37 |
AnthonyZ Select Member |
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I'm with ceied. Why is this your issue? I would call the designer and have his a$$. Though I am typically a teddy bear, crap like this will turn me into a monster. If he gives you any guff, break his teeth. If your record is clean you'll only spend the night in jail.
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| Post 8 made on Monday February 27, 2006 at 18:50 |
Audible Solutionns Super Member |
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On February 27, 2006 at 16:30, Brentm said...
Yes HDMI has problems.
BUT IT IS THE FUTURE, PERIOD.
Get used to it
Educate your client on the advantages of prewiring
for it EVEN if you do not deploy it today. Most
of the switching problems are from faulty firmware
provided to the mfgr's (not the fault of the receiver
mfgr.).
It is recommened that you secure the cables with
a velcro strip behind the gear.
Buy your HDMI product from a company THAT IS CERTIFIED
(and can provide you the documentation). If you
are doing a prewire with HDMI, test the cable
BEFORE install, AFTER you have made the run and
again before you hookup the gear. There are testors
available (mine is the Ethereal Tester, checks
continuity on all pairs).
This is with us for the next 5-8 years learn how
to use it. Anyone paying atttention? Or is this a group psychology session? Alan
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| Post 9 made on Monday February 27, 2006 at 19:33 |
Brentm Ethereal Home Theater |
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Alan:
Are you coming to Orlando for EHExpo this year?
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Brent McCall
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| Post 10 made on Monday February 27, 2006 at 19:53 |
Theaterworks Founding Member |
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On February 27, 2006 at 16:30, Brentm said...
Yes HDMI has problems.
BUT IT IS THE FUTURE, PERIOD.
Get used to it
Educate your client on the advantages of prewiring
for it EVEN if you do not deploy it today. Most
of the switching problems are from faulty firmware
provided to the mfgr's (not the fault of the receiver
mfgr.).
It is recommened that you secure the cables with
a velcro strip behind the gear.
Buy your HDMI product from a company THAT IS CERTIFIED
(and can provide you the documentation). If you
are doing a prewire with HDMI, test the cable
BEFORE install, AFTER you have made the run and
again before you hookup the gear. There are testors
available (mine is the Ethereal Tester, checks
continuity on all pairs).
This is with us for the next 5-8 years learn how
to use it. OK, I'll bite. 1) How much is the tester? 2) How do you prewire for HDMI?
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| Post 11 made on Monday February 27, 2006 at 19:55 |
dcci Long Time Member |
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I'm not aware of any way to pre-wire for HDMI other than using pre-terminated HDMI cables. DVIGear sells HDMI wallplates, among others, I'm sure.
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| Post 12 made on Monday February 27, 2006 at 20:14 |
Brentm Ethereal Home Theater |
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Theaterworks:
1) Tester is $80.
2) Today, with extended lenght HDMI cables (sorry) we have 20m & 30m "HDMI LLC". certified systems w/ CL rated cables.
By summer there will be at least one "HDMI LLC". certified dual Cat V system available.
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| Post 13 made on Monday February 27, 2006 at 20:31 |
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On February 27, 2006 at 20:14, Brentm said...
By summer there will be at least one "HDMI LLC".
certified dual Cat V system available. Are the Gefen cat5 HDMI senders not working well? [Link: gefen.com]Havent tried one yet. Oh, and as for HDMI, some A$$hat engineer needs to be strung up for not putting screw posts and screws as part of the connection interface.
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on February 27, 2006 20:42.
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| Post 14 made on Monday February 27, 2006 at 21:23 |
Brentm Ethereal Home Theater |
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"Are the Gefen cat5 HDMI senders not working well?"
I am not in a position to comment on that product.
"Oh, and as for HDMI, some A$$hat engineer needs to be strung up for not putting screw posts and screws as part of the connection interface. "
There is a new style terminal that has been submitted for approval that has a locking mechanism (backwards compatable with current terminals), but there is concern that consumers will not understand how it works and just try to pull it out (damaging the receiving terminal).
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| OP | Post 15 made on Monday March 6, 2006 at 01:09 |
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The Geffen works fine but their two in one out hdmi switch uses a female dvi for the out. so be prepared with a dvi coupling or a dvi to hdmi cable
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