did not realise they still made 66 blocks..... doesnt everyone use some kind of structured wiring system? for our really big houses we will do it with leviton like our commercial jobs nice racks et al......

maybe i'm to extreme and need to learn to do stuff bullshitty cuz it looks like people will pay for bullshit work.

my 2 cents

ed

We now do strictly structrued wiring enclosures (OnQ/Legrand or Leviton). Used to have too many issues with homeowners (or worse the telephone guys) messing with our wires and losing jacks.

I really like the OnQ/Legrand (Greyfox) stuff because it can be used for so many things. Phone today, network tomorrow, camera Tuesday, intercom Friday ... That really impresses the H/O. I have found that the builders could care less as long as they don't get call backs.

P.S. Larry, I didn't mean ALL electricians are bad. We get some of our biggest jobs from electricians that don't know the difference between Cat3 2 pair and Cat5 4 pair.

I use 66 blocks, it is the only way to go in large jobs and give me the flexibility to do anything I want with the cat5. I can wire any jack in the house anyway I want for what ever I need it to do, I can tap off a pair on any cat5 for IR, phone, network, contact closure or whatever else I may need to do, I'm not stuck with Blue=line1 Orange=Line2 and so on.. Yes the panel systems can be prettier but for full flexibility the old standard 66 blocks are the way to go.

What 66 blocks do you use that meet Cat 5 spec?

You guys that have used OnQ AND USTec, do you have a preference, and why?

Since when does cat5 spec have anything to do with telephone? We run 2 cat5's to each jack, one network specific goes to a 568a or b block, and the other goes to a 66 block. When you have a cat5 running to an office with jacks set up where one jack may be on a panasonic phone system which requires the Blue and Orange pairs and then you have a jack connected to the Green pair but that green pair needs to go to the output of a fax modem switch because the fax line is being used as a voice line is alot easier to set up with a basic 66 block than when you typically punch down every pair of a cat5 to a distributed phone module on one of the Leviton or whatever headend system which then bridges every jack in the home together.

I think the point was - Why use 66 blocks instead of 110 blocks? At least if you punch down to the 110 block, and then decide one needs to be a LAN jack, you can just punch to the 110 and extend to a LAN panel. With a 66 block you would have to rip it out and move it.

Ya, that was exactly the point. But I actually edited my question but CMA got to it before that. The statement he quoted from me is incorrect (on my part). A little Googling showed that there apparently are 66 blocks that now support Cat 5. That did not used to be the case. It's been years since we've used a 66 blocks and when we did none were Cat 5 rated.

My bad, I actually meant 110 as well instead of 66, I think I'm still a little hazy from the Reverend Horton Heat last night, I need to step back from the computer and get outside. I know 66 or 110 isn't ideal and doesn't fall under spec for networking but in a pinch it does work.

I know 66 or 110

110 is fine for networking.