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Telephone Head End
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Post 1 made on Thursday February 16, 2006 at 02:00
cgoold
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One of our builders has aksed us to start running the telephone lines instead of the electricians. What do you guys suggest for a telephone termination head end? We run wire in these houses for completely centralized A/V distribution.
Post 2 made on Thursday February 16, 2006 at 07:39
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use some kind of structured wiring system, onq open house etc..... only way to go
Ed will be known as the Tiger Woods of the integration business, followed closely with the renaming of his company to "Hotties A/V". The tag line will be "We like big racks and tight holes"...
Post 3 made on Thursday February 16, 2006 at 08:00
Wire Nuts
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ditto ceied's response.
Post 4 made on Thursday February 16, 2006 at 08:26
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I've been using the C-0441 from Channel Vision:

[Link: twacomm.com]

I don't use the alarm bypass section, but it's well designed, and allows for nice dressing of the wire.
Post 5 made on Thursday February 16, 2006 at 09:42
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Im also using the On-Q housing etc.....
GOD is REAL!!!!!!
Post 6 made on Thursday February 16, 2006 at 12:45
cma
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Anything better than wire nuts will be a step up for the builder.
Post 7 made on Thursday February 16, 2006 at 15:41
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On February 16, 2006 at 12:45, cma said...
Anything better than wire nuts will be a step
up for the builder.

LMFAO... I hear that...
Post 8 made on Thursday February 16, 2006 at 16:01
tschulte
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Especially if the electrician was doing it before.
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Post 9 made on Thursday February 16, 2006 at 17:40
Larry Fine
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On February 16, 2006 at 16:01, tschulte said...
Especially if the electrician was doing it before.

Hey! We're not all that bad.
Post 10 made on Thursday February 16, 2006 at 18:47
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We use USTec http://www.ustecnet.com/ For our larger jobs we use the ProLAN series. We are able to do all phone, data, cable, and sat distro. It looks good, impresses the customers and the builders, and is easy for us to maintain.

They are completely modular. So you can pretty much do any combination of phone/data. It supports KSU, phone surge, RJ31X, etc.

It is a bit more costly then a punch down. But like I said it looks great and easy to organize everything.

Last edited by oceanthrsty on February 16, 2006 18:54.
Post 11 made on Friday February 17, 2006 at 17:28
avbydesign
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Channel Vision all the way. From the basic 0431 to the expansion modules. It makes life easy.

The Panasonic KSU from Channel Vision is nice also.

Mike
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Post 12 made on Friday February 17, 2006 at 22:34
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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On February 16, 2006 at 18:47, oceanthrsty said...
We use USTec http://www.ustecnet.com/ For our
larger jobs we use the ProLAN series. We are
able to do all phone, data, cable, and sat distro.
It looks good, impresses the customers and the
builders, and is easy for us to maintain.

I take it in the first case you are referring to ceLAN?

This looks like all four pairs are connected to RJ45 connectors, then patched together, in other words, an ultimate daisy chain. What do you do when you need to use the first two pairs for the phone system, the third pair for an answering machine on line 1 because they don't want to buy the software answering machine solution, and the fax line on the fourth pair? And then what do you do when they decide to add another phone station where you only ran one CAT5 and using two pairs for each would be perfect?

I still use punchdown blocks and always punch all pairs. I occasionally run out of spots to add wires to some single line, but they make piggy-back punchdowns that will take care of that emergency.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 13 made on Friday February 17, 2006 at 23:04
themaster
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USTec has the best panels i've seen.Also the most expensive i've seen.They look and work great,you get what you pay for.
Post 14 made on Friday February 17, 2006 at 23:26
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66 blocks...done
Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic!
Post 15 made on Saturday February 18, 2006 at 11:51
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Depends on the size of your system. If your dealing with basic T/R distribution to a few rooms then use 66 blocks and build your own distrbution panel. But if it is a large distribution system with Net access cameras and Networking like a lot of clients are requesting now than I suggest you install a distribution panel. the work is pretty much down for you. just punch it down and your gone. later
Deniz Kose

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