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Post 1 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 19:02
Instalz
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Hi guys. I have a job I'm working on. The customer would like to have her cabinet maker build a unit for her 42" plasma. She wants to incorporate a plasma lift into the cab.
I did a search already. And found that auton is noisy and has a garage door opener for a remote. Inca seemed to get rave reviews from allot of you.
This is my first lift experience.
Questions are...
Inca?
Can I use the MX-350 to control the lift?
How do you guys usually handle the cabinet construction? Do you just order up the lift and give it to the cabinet maker?
Thanks in advance.. Bobby...
Post 2 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 20:51
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We have a local supplier that manufactures thier own lifts, we then provide the lift to the cabinet guy and he builds around it. Our unit comes with a small remote car starter type of remote. No IR unfortunately.
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Glen ___________________ Happiness is living in a padded room with a ball.
Post 3 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 20:58
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Theres some good info on this at Integration Pros.
OP | Post 4 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 21:39
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Thanks guys. I spoke to a rep at auton earlier today, he was helpful. But when I did a search on the forum, I read that they are very noisey.
Is it possible to control the lift with a universal remote?
I will also contact the cabinet maker. I think that my biggest challenge is going to be the location of the hd box, and dvd. The wall that the cabinet is on is the width of the 42" and cabinet. The customer asked about the possibility of placing the source equipment above the plasma, and having it retract with the plasma. The rep at auton discouraged this. Have any of you ever done anything like this? Thanks again..
Post 5 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 21:48
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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No matter who you buy it from, you don't have to buy their remote unless they have no clue.

I have bought and installed a few things from Inca. They are pricey but good. On the other hand, I recently heard about a plasma lift (drop from the ceiling) they made where the motor let go and the plasma hit the floor. They graciously offered to replace the motor. As they had not manufactured the motor, they would take no liability for its misbehavior. Caveat Installer.

As for the remotes, tell them you want dry contacts. You want to do it however they like -- apply 12 volts to two wires to raise it, apply 12 volts to two other wires to lower it; perhaps, as in a Stewart Filmscreen, apply 12 volts to bring the plasma out of the box, then remove those 12 volts and it goes back.

They have to take time and money to take the basic connections that you want and add their remote controls to them. Once installed, they won't take them out, and the best you can do is not reverse engineer, but sideways engineer: take the thing apart, figure out what they did, and build a parallel way to get voltages, lack of voltages, connections, et cetera the same way their remote does.

It irritates me when clients call, saying they have just bought an RF controlled lift and they want me to install it -- and control it with IR. I could have made a few bucks on the lift if they had talked to me first, but more importantly could have saved them hundreds by not having the lift company do the one remote control scenario that they learned how to do once, and hundreds more by not having to pay me to figure out how to get around it.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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OP | Post 6 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 21:58
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Thanks Ernie.
It looks like Inca is the way I'll go. So if I request dry contacts. What will I need?
Again, I apologize, I've never been involved in a lift. By the way, when ya movin back to Laconia? It's suppose to snow here wednesday...
Post 7 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 22:12
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I found this link on this site a few weeks ago. Maybe it will be of some help...

[Link: electrokinetics.com]
OP | Post 8 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 22:23
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Thanks JRock. I shot them an email...
Have you used them yet?
Post 9 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 22:34
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We use them all the time. Never a problem . We just installed a 63 inch Fujitsu on a lift that spins around the room.
Jesse is the man!!
[Link: electrokinetics.com]
OP | Post 10 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 22:37
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Thanks zinon. Are they pricey?
What kind of turn around time typically?
Post 11 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 22:45
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Your welcome
Prices are Reasonable. Great workmanship. usually run 3-4 weeks
Zinon
Post 12 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 22:53
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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Our buyer, especially after hearing of the Inca motor misfortune, is now buying, and liking, Lift-Tech. Sorry, but I have no info other than that name.

I don't think I will be moving back to Laconia.

Is Grammy Felker's farm still there? That's where I lived until summer of 1951. I remember nothing of the place, as I was about 18 months old....
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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OP | Post 13 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 23:05
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Ernie, never heard of it.... 1951???? I don't think Lake Winnipesaukee was even here in 1951.... Just kiding....
Post 14 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 23:55
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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On 11/07/05 23:05 ET, Instalz said...
Ernie, never heard of it.... 1951????

Figures. Damn kids.


But seriously: Tim Conway tells that his dad was hilarious and didn't eve nknow it. One day after a tornado touched down and tore to shreds the house across the street, Tim's dad went over to the front door, opened it, looked across the street at the pile of refuse, and said, "Damn kids."
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
OP | Post 15 made on Tuesday November 8, 2005 at 00:10
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LOL Ernie.... I'm 1964... (damn kids) Thanks for the compliment..
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