NOw thats a joke. What used to be good residulas is now a thing of the past, and with a cap. Like most industries, we're getting paid less to do more.

Huh?

Thats what I plan on doing. Finding the comfort zone for now, and slowly getting into other areas when/if Im ready, as I have done with the other aspects of the business

This much I did know, but thats about where it stopped. You, Rick, alan, etc are correct in that I had no idea it was so involved, required so much training, etc. NOw that I know, I will put it on the "not right now, we dont carry/support that line" list

I | Do yourself and your customers a favor and move

Doing just that


Trying to do that. I just inadvertantly offended someone in the midst.

thanks for the input

This message was edited by idodishez on 05/25/05 22:59 ET.

All I ask here is that you tell me where i said ONCE that Lutron had a better product than Crestron. I said I was HAPPY with Lutron, becasue as Rick stated, " he wasn't interested in starting over with Crestron lighting since he has already becoming more familiar with Lutron." I had no desire to add another lighting line, as I am CONTENT (not due to SUPERIORITY) with Lutron

Unless this isnt directed at me like most of your post, you're mis-quoting me again. Never said I was "entitled" to sell anything! I even let it drop when I found that I COULDNT carry the line. It merely caught me off guard, as I was not expecting the response I got from Crestron.


What editorial comments? Yes, I admit I WAS suprised to find that i had to do the ENTIRE line of lighting, HVAC, control, etc, to get into the control aspect of the line. I DID go into the phone call with the thoght process of "Customer aksed about Crestron, is it an option for me to use the Crestron line as well for A/V control?" When I found out otherwise, I mentioned it on here with my post on DISTRIBUTORS.

Its actually a good thing (though not for ME now) that I CANT get the line w/o minimums. As you mentioned, its a line that STILL requires devotion, minimums, direct sales, etc. While it may not help me now, I like to see that, as Im sure you do, for obvious reasons. I prefer to carry/install lines that wont get shopped, as this becomes a bigger problem. Even URC, who was SUPPOSED to be PROFESSIONAL ONLY, is still popping up on Ebay for pennies above our cost. So when a company (Crestron) still maintains that devotion, it shows there ARE still companies out there to strive for, that are the cream of the crop.

Correct, I think:) I had no idea that Crestron was this involved. All I knew what the name, and that it was the shit. I mean there are handfulls of manufacturers that claim to have the "complete package" with lighting control, security, A/V distribution, automation, HVAC, etc. I had no reason to think Crestron was any different. So when I went into the phone conversation looking for possible custom remote/tochpad options, I was caught off guard to be told I had to do the entire line. I have NO desire to tackle another manufacturer trying to tell me THEIR system is better than "A", or "B". While it un-doubtedly IS, I dont have the time to devote to it, especially after finding out that it IS so much of a more complex system. (Again, had NO idea) For now, just starting out, I'll stick w my Lutron, URC, Channel Plus, etc. Maybe down the road when Im quoting 6 figure jobs or similar, Ill look into the Crestron line. Not now. For now, Im CONTENT :)