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MONSER POWER CENTER
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Post 16 made on Sunday April 3, 2005 at 23:38
2nd rick
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I haved used and owned Panamax products for over a decade and haven't found a single piece of damaged equipment on the other side of a Panamax.

I like the Equi=Tech balanced products as well, if the budget can support it. They have models from 15A rackmount all the way up to 125A sub panels.
[Link: equitech.com]

If it's good enough for the Skywalker Sound, plus the best recording studios & mastering labs in the World, then it's good enough for my clients.

IMO, Monster isn't high tech under ANY circumstances...
Monster doesn't invent anything other than new names to market existing technologies.

This message was edited by 2nd rick on 04/04/05 02:30 ET.
Rick Murphy
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Post 17 made on Monday April 4, 2005 at 01:02
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On 04/03/05 23:38 ET, 2nd rick said...
IMO, Monster isn't high tech under ANY circumstances...

True Value has a sale on a piece that will do exactly what the monster will do!

It doesn't look as nice, but it is only $4.99!!!
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Post 18 made on Monday April 4, 2005 at 01:30
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what, the True Value piece will let a jolt go through, then catch on fire just like monster?

heh
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Post 19 made on Monday April 4, 2005 at 02:44
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Actually, there was a Fiskars/Power Sentry model that had the same case as the original Monster Power strip (the one with the different colored outlets)
The Fiskars was just a plain beige strip, while the Monster had each outlet color coded. That must have been why the Fiskars was only $9.99 and the Monster was $49.99.

When Panamax disco'd the Max 6 line and launched the Max 8, my Panamax rep brought out a Max 8, the Monster strip, and the Fiskars hardware store model and let us take them apart.
This was also the day we fried the Monster, but before it fried, we all saw that it was exactly the same as the Fiskars.
Rick Murphy
Troy, MI
Post 20 made on Monday April 4, 2005 at 09:31
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We usually use the SurgeX products when we have room (panamax when we need to cram stuff into a small cabinet).

The SurgeX stuff is the best I have used. The SX2120 and the SX1115RT are the two we use the most often. For out of town jobs we use the SEQ to take advantage of the programmable turn on sequence in the case of a power outage or surge.

These are all for houses that are normal size jobs, for big jobs we do more with the power and will use whole house products and reconstruct a true SINE wave.
Post 21 made on Monday April 4, 2005 at 09:59
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Way back when Cinepro used to Farm Furman and do a little work with it.

I had the PowerPro 20 and moved up to the 30 amp version.

Power from the wall goes into the PowerSupply 30 wich regulates my voltage to 118 and passes a 30 amp L1430 to the PowerPro wich converts AC to DC or something like that.

The white papers are at Furman.

But the sound is great. I have had some big amps pounding along with massive subs and nothing sounds strained. My picture is noticably clearer when plugged into the Power Products rather than the wall.

NOISE YOU ASK.

I liove right next door to a ham radio operator. My city hauls him into court all the time due to the interferance he generates.

When he talks on his system it comes out of my house hold electronics with speakers. Plus it comes out LOUD. My computer speakers are not protected like my test system and I can hear him blast through them most eves.

The problem with my test system is that he would blast out of them at full volume despite what I set the volume at. It would wake up components that sleep with no singal present and HONK out what ever he was spouting. NOw the trebbile is not even there so its all vould sounds and disjointed sounding.

ONce I got the power products he has not invade my Hometheater/Test room since.

As my subs and woofers in speakers would get demolished by this problem I was all to happy to pay the money for the Cinepro stuff. Well not that happy those 2 products cost more then a lot of decent projectors.

But at one point I had all the various source componets... My EAD TheaterMaster Ovation Plus preamp feeding...
Get this
1 EAD PowerMaster 2000 (20amp version)
1 Cinepro 3k6se Gold
1 Cinepro 1k2se (For the Subwoofers!!!)
1 Carvin 1000 (to drive the buttkickers of course)

My speakers were NHT 2.9s and AC-2s. Subs were (2)HSU TN 1220 and the Buttkicker. I was playing some loud bombastic battle sceen and then the movie cuts to slience... well you thought the walls would fall down then suddenly the only sound in the system was the faint hint of wind that had been mixed in.

IT WAS AWESOME!
Post 22 made on Monday April 4, 2005 at 13:06
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After reading posts for the past six months on power conditioning I've come to believe that there is even more snake oil in this area than there is in esoteric wire.

Panamax and Monster use the same basic technology although it does appear that Panamax does a better job of implementing it.

Furman also uses the same technology except for their new line featuring non sacrificial compononents. I haven't checked up in a couple of months but the Initial discussions regarding this new line led many of us to believe that Furman is A. lying or B. going to get their ass sued off for copyright infringment. Also I've seen plenty of equipment post furman that was blown to bits from a surge.

As I've said before their is a rating that's a pretty decent guide line for surge equipment. Much like a horepower rating for cars. U.L 1449 ADJUNCT testing. not the 1449 safety rating which has absolutely nothing to do with how well a product protects equipment.

do a search on google for UL 1449 A-1-1 and see what comes up. for the most part you'll see two companies listed. One is Furman one one is Surgex. Surgex has been doing this for years now. I will update myself on the status of Furman but to my knowledge they speak of an A-1-1 rating but haven't actually tested their product yet.

Also the last time I asked Panamax for their adjunct testing they just said "we'll get back to you on that" After three tries I gave up.
Post 23 made on Saturday April 30, 2005 at 23:14
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Here's something that I came across on AVS...




I couldn't stop laughing...

and THAT is the power strip that was the same as the Fiskars one from Sears.
Rick Murphy
Troy, MI
Post 24 made on Sunday May 1, 2005 at 01:20
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Has anyone else used the Belkin Pro-AV units? I have used a couple of them and really like the programabilty of the different banks. It is really better than the equivalent Monster units where they decide which banks are switched. You can set up each individual bank so that it is switched or non-switched, and if it has a delay or not. You can also set the length of the delay.
Post 25 made on Sunday May 1, 2005 at 01:29
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eta makes an equal to furman with power sequencing....... great if you have individual amps.....or other speaker "poppers"

at a better than monster price
Post 26 made on Sunday May 1, 2005 at 01:57
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On 04/30/05 23:14 ET, 2nd rick said...
Here's something that I came across on AVS...



I couldn't stop laughing...

and THAT is the power strip that was the same
as the Fiskars one from Sears.

Looks like MONSTER should be going after a less knowledgeable 'client'. As they have proven over time!

No one with half a brain would expect they're 'power strips' to protect ANYTHING !!!

This message was edited by pilgram on 05/01/05 02:07 ET.
Every day is a good day.......some are just better than others!

Proud to say that my property is protected by a high speed wireless device!
Post 27 made on Sunday May 1, 2005 at 14:53
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Has any body used the new monster power centers ?

If you have not please no *&#! up coment's
THE MILKMAN

Post 28 made on Sunday May 1, 2005 at 15:15
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On 05/01/05 14:53 ET, MILKMAN said...
Has any body used the new monster power centers
?

If you have not please no *&#! up coment's



I would NEVER 'dog' a product without having first hand experience!

The Monster looks impressive, possibly even filters noise,but, it offers little or no protection against a power surge!
Every day is a good day.......some are just better than others!

Proud to say that my property is protected by a high speed wireless device!
Post 29 made on Sunday May 1, 2005 at 19:28
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Which models? We use them all...
Post 30 made on Sunday May 1, 2005 at 20:09
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HTPS7000SS
THE MILKMAN

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