I have like a really plain room for my theatre system. And it is Really hard to hide the wires like its almost impossible to hide them. Does Anyone know what do i have to do to this room? Should I like remodel the whole thing?

you could try hidding them behind the molding
you could try something like panduit,

TJ, to see about putting wiring in the walls, we'd have to know what's around the room, above, below, all around.

In other words, if downstairs, is there a crawl space? If upstairs, is there an unfinished attic?

Larry
www.fineelectricco.com

Well I was thinking Of either putting it On the main floor. My room is right over it and the basement rooom us under it. I don't know what i can do. Maybe like run the wires...but like how?

Anthony, what do you mean The Molding? I room is just walls painted with wooden floors.

Look Festus, you got to give a little, to get a lot: What's needed here is information about the room.
Any and all the following suggestions are really a waste if they don't apply to your situation.

What kind of wires? Just speaker wires?

How about pulling up the edges of your carpeting and having professional carpet men put it back for you after hiding wires?

Let's assume you've got base mouldings, no? Pry 'em off, buy the thick 'n tall mouldings that your wife REALLY wants, plop 'em on a table saw and dado out channels on the backsides. Taller moulding will hide evidence of your prying. You could even dado out door casings and run wire over the doors.(Although it adds length, and if you're lucky enough to have a threshold right there, you MIGHT be able to squeeze SOME wiring underneath.)

What about calling an expert? A low voltage contractor to fish your wires through the walls.

What about getting a Mike Sandman video?

What about doing a search on REMOTE CENTRAL (!!), using different combinations of criteria like "concealed", "wires", "hiding" and "hidden"?

How about looking on the Web? (U R There!)

its just regular speaker wires. And if you want measurments i can get some.

How long is just a built in factor of your room that you're going to have to live with/work around.

You say you've got a basement? Then there's a cavity between the floor of the upper room and the ceiling in the basement. It may be time to go fishin'. It might be less invasive in the end. You've got wood floors? Can you work from the basement? If not it might be good to have a termite (carpenter) WHO KNOWS FLOORS come see how easy it would be to pull a few strategic planks and let you drop the angle drill in with some bits and extensions. If you can get the floor opened up in a few places an electrical contractor (he's already got the angle drill and long bits) might cut you a break on the labor, but he's probably going to want the wiring job too. Once YOU can see the floor joists you may be inspired to rent a drill and try it yourself, but if you aren't a DIY and don't possess "problem solving skills", you'd best back away from the drill. You don't know what's behind each successive joist in terms of 'lectrikal wirin' and "wotter pypes". Just drill thru' both simultaneously for HOURS of FUN.

Where's the HT going? Upstairs or down? <--- Sorry, but you didn't actually specify.

added: You need to settle on a room and stick with it. You've got two factors to juggle: Which one's the optimum HT platform, and which one lets you hide wires easier. If both answers are the same room, then it's been decided. (I instinctively like the basement idea, 'cause you can blast 'til late in the evening without the neighbors buggin'.)

This message was edited by Sheik_Yerbouhti on 07/14/02 04:45.12.

I want to put the Speakers Like that. And the easiest place would be the basement because the Ceiling Is easy to Contruct. But I still like the idea In the living room because its like a seperate room. I would just like to Like Hide the cables without having to go into to much work.

And is their anyway i can like staple up the wires to the wall(with a staple gun) and like put a material over it? I would Like prefer a design like where i can get the best possible sound.

Ps: Does anyone know where to get those acessories in the picture to put the speakers on the ceiling.




This message was edited by theatrejunkie on 07/14/02 05:03.18.

Dude! There's no ceiling in the basement yet? That's a wiring freeway!! Whether you go upstairs or down, don't you dare seal it up until you get lots of Cat5e and some strategically placed plastic conduit in there. It's like a tunnel to the future.(Conduit's cheap, don't scrimp here!)


If you look close you'll see that guy's usin' Monsta' XP and it's an eyesore. Who put that lazy droop in the wire? Is that a "drip loop"? Is he expecting the ceiling to leak? To hide wire in that situation, you can buy some composition plastic crown moulding that actually looks just like wood after paint, and it's already got a channel behind it. You can also buy styrofoam moulding that is easy to "hog out" on the backside. "STYROFOAM"?? you say? Yep, and it looks as nice or better because they mould a course grained faux wood "skin" on it in the manufacturing process. (You could even consider.... REAL WOOD!!)


You lazy 'junkie! I'm too tired to be your human search engine right now. Do some searches (Yahoo) on ceiling, mount, wall, speaker brackets, wall mount speaker brackets. Some brand names: Vogel, B-TECH, Omnimount. (You can just cut 'n paste different combos from here, so you won't have to type it in. (You milker!) AND DON'T BUY CHEAP BRACKETS OR YOUR SPEAKERS WILL FALL AND DISFIGURE YOUR GIRLFRIEND.

If you don't find any, and no one else helps, I'll come back and cook your PABLUM for you one last time, but you gotta' learn to do research. Would you like a hammock?

well I like drew out a diagram of how i want it. I will upload that soon. and My ceiling does have a basement. You know those kinds of ceilings that you can push up on? and it can like slide out of place. I've got those.

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Here is the Diagram i said i was going to upload



Its pretty easy I just want to know if the sound will be tight


This message was edited by theatrejunkie on 07/14/02 06:17.36.

Reading this thread gives me the impression that you are not familiar about the installation process and construction in general. In your own self interest I would suggest getting professional help for the installation.

TJ, I just looked at your room layout.

Critique #1. You should move the TV to where the center speaker is. If you insist on having the TV in the corner, then rotate the entire speaker layout clockwise 45 degrees, so the center speaker is over (or under) the TV, the left and right fronts flank it, and the surrounds are at the ends of the sofas. The speakers should be symmetrically splayed around the TV and seating.

You are describing a suspended ceiling, with the lift-out panels. This is your lucky day! This will allow you the access necessary to use either room for your theater. If you use the basement, you should be able to drop wiring between the studs from above the ceiling. If you use the room above, you will most likely be able to drill into the stud bays (spaces) from below.

The questions you are asking are the most basic, and I concur that you should seek professional assistance with your project. You want wires hidden, but want the work to be simple and easy. The work isn't simple and easy, but doing damage to your home is.

There's a reason that there are professional businesses that do this kind of work. Your posts suggest that you are not gaining understanding from one to the next. If it were easy, everybody would be doing it!

Larry
www.fineelectricco.com

And like.....please cut down on like....the number of times you like....say like. Like, please.

I was wondering when SOMEBODY was going to say something! It was painful to read the thread :-)

I tried to drop a subtle hint by adding a pause behind the word “like”, here…..


…..but “like” so many other unheeded hints, the ‘junkie persists.


Doo-Rah!


Reprise!


Chorus!


Once again I say: "You lazy ‘junkie!" I would suggest you go do OTHER work so you can retain professional help for this job, which you are reluctant to do. It IS going to be “much work” if you expect nice results, work which it has become apparent you are (apologies in advance) painfully, obviously, unqualified to do.


Don’t expect to spend 70 bucks to get this right; augment your investment with a quality install. You should look at HT magazines and examine theaters you KNOW you cannot afford, collate the features you most like, and seek out someone who can help you achieve a midrange solution. (Not your neighbor "Clem" either.)

This message was edited by Sheik_Yerbouhti on 07/14/02 19:19.15.