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Surveillance camera(s) for your own use
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Post 1 made on Friday September 3, 2021 at 12:30
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If any of you wanted to install some kind of camera, would you still go with wired IP, analog (which are really improving), Nest/Ring-type,.....?

I have a floodlight that has breathed its last, so I'm toying with the idea of getting a Ring Floodlight, to restore the lighting function and add the camera since we have been seeing some increased idiot activity in my neighborhood- I know they have all been hacked and that Amazon owns Ring, but I'd like to see the pros and cons from you people since I'm not going to look in consumer comments for accurate info. Yes, the floodlight has power.

Might go with a solar powered model, just in case the power goes out (it's a detached garage) and I have a UPS for the network.

Thanks
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Post 2 made on Friday September 3, 2021 at 12:36
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I'm not interested in providing Amazon (or any other company) with a video camera attached to my home. Outside of early-generation battery-powered models, the ones that clients have asked for have seemed to work well if you set up the wi-fi well for them (dedicated 2.4 SSID seems to be the most reliable configuration).

If it were my own home, I would use a wired camera. Many are available with local storage right in the camera, so no need for an NVR if you don't require lots of storage or have tons of cameras.
Post 3 made on Friday September 3, 2021 at 12:44
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Wired Ip would be my choice. Analog just requires too much other crap to go with it.

Ring and the like is not even worth talking about.
Post 4 made on Friday September 3, 2021 at 13:51
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On September 3, 2021 at 12:30, highfigh said...
If any of you wanted to install some kind of camera, would you still go with wired IP, analog (which are really improving), Nest/Ring-type,.....?

I have a floodlight that has breathed its last, so I'm toying with the idea of getting a Ring Floodlight, to restore the lighting function and add the camera since we have been seeing some increased idiot activity in my neighborhood- I know they have all been hacked and that Amazon owns Ring, but I'd like to see the pros and cons from you people since I'm not going to look in consumer comments for accurate info. Yes, the floodlight has power.

Might go with a solar powered model, just in case the power goes out (it's a detached garage) and I have a UPS for the network.

Thanks

Even if you add the solar panel to your Ring device, if your power goes out, so does your wifi. Therefore, no camera.

Best if you're worried about surveillance if your power goes out would be to get the best wired TVI cameras you can get, and use a big UPS on the DVR.
Post 5 made on Friday September 3, 2021 at 14:32
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I would go with Hikvision Colorvue and possibly Accusense.

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Post 6 made on Friday September 3, 2021 at 15:34
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Both. I have Ring Doorbell and a Ring floodlight, along with 7 IP wired cams. Like it or not, the notifications and motion detection on Ring works better than traditional CCTV setups. They lack continuous recording and are limited on video quality, although they are pretty good for the price, especially.
Post 7 made on Friday September 3, 2021 at 17:19
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I happen to be pondering the same. I have analog Luma and DVR but using cat cabling. Just bought an 8ch Luma NVR that we pulled from a clients home and thought I was going that direction. But, I just replaced my Pakedge gear with UBNT and am thrilled. On the fence about grabbing some G3/4 cams.
Post 8 made on Friday September 3, 2021 at 18:04
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On September 3, 2021 at 15:34, goldenzrule said...
Both. I have Ring Doorbell and a Ring floodlight, along with 7 IP wired cams. Like it or not, the notifications and motion detection on Ring works better than traditional CCTV setups. They lack continuous recording and are limited on video quality, although they are pretty good for the price, especially.

Have you tried something like Blue Iris with your IP cameras?
Post 9 made on Friday September 3, 2021 at 18:34
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IP only, bigger/better cameras will use higher POE standards.  Put your network equipment on a ups (it's not already??) and it never stops recording....LOCALLY.

I've never had a client decide to go with nest or ring once I told them they own your video.
OP | Post 10 made on Saturday September 4, 2021 at 11:16
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On September 3, 2021 at 13:51, BHuey1969 said...
Even if you add the solar panel to your Ring device, if your power goes out, so does your wifi. Therefore, no camera.

Best if you're worried about surveillance if your power goes out would be to get the best wired TVI cameras you can get, and use a big UPS on the DVR.

As I wrote, I have a UPS for the network and would increase the reserve if I add a DVR. Obviously, this assumes the ISP stays up, but if I have cabling problems outside, I could use something like the Netgear LM1200, which has a slot for a SIM card (and am actually considering that since I would save almost half of the cost of my internet).
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 11 made on Saturday September 4, 2021 at 15:52
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I put a Nest outdoor camera on my house a few years ago. Mostly to test it out as they are for sale everywhere and I figured it would only be a matter of time before I had people asking about them.
Has worked, and continues to work just fine for my needs.
Was easy to install, easy to set up and easy to use.
I have used them along with the Nest Hello doorbell in a few clients homes and had no issues, and happy clients.
Not for everyone, really comes down to what someone's needs are.
Post 12 made on Sunday September 5, 2021 at 08:40
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The big boys make it easy, and cheap, but the hidden future costs are high.

They’ve monopolized so many of the tech markets; streaming, phones, tablets, pc os, networking equipment, doorbells, alarms, cameras, music, voice, and about to corner the market with matter lighting.

With terms and conditions so dense and constantly changing and without consent. We own none of it. Our data is their’s to use as they please.

Versus a little extra labor, some wire and yes a few dollars more upfront costs.

Run the wire, use an SD card, blue iris or NVR. Own your data as much as you can.
Technology is cheap, Time is expensive.
Post 13 made on Sunday September 5, 2021 at 10:05
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And what are the "hidden future costs"?
If you try to tell me privacy, you gave that up a long time ago when you started posting things on line and using a cell phone. Heck the fact that you go online means some IP out there knows where you lurk on the internet.
Do you subscribe to services like Netflix, they use data to monitor what you watch and when.
GPS on your phone or in your car tracks where you are or are going.
They (whomever they are?) know, or can find out, you were downtown on main st at 2:30pm because you walked by a bank machine or 1 of 100's of cameras.
Maybe it was here or on IP, didn't someone comment about the fact that all these wired cameras are made in China and they have back doors into them ?
Matter, that's not just for lighting. Matter is supposed to take everything we typically want to connect into our Smart Home and make it easy and seamless as they will all communicate using the same standard.
I gave up on trying to hide from it. If they want to customize advertising based on things I am interested in, or looking for, then let them. I don't have to click on them, or buy anything else.
Do you have some other insight as to what they are going to do to me because I have a camera in my driveway, or any of the other products they offer?
The average Joe goes off to work, walks the dog, plays with his kids, watches a couple shows on Netflix, on Tuesday they order Pizza and Saturday nights they go out for dinner. Does he really have anything to fear by having some of this tech in his home?
Post 14 made on Sunday September 5, 2021 at 10:12
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Always wired for reliability. IP. Definitely local storage of some sort. Put everything (security, cameras, ISP, network, wifi AP, etc) on a big UPS and local power outages won’t be a big problem (especially if your actual internet doesn’t usually go down when power does).
Post 15 made on Sunday September 5, 2021 at 12:54
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In concept one could use a wired Internet connection except during power outages. During power outages switch to cell transmissions. Local storage likely fails during a fire or flood -- potentially along with the camera, but at least you'll have a remote record up to the point of complete local system failure.
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