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Sound United buys Onkyo & Pioneer!!!
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Post 1 made on Wednesday May 15, 2019 at 03:25
charris
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Sound United is the parent company of Denon & Marantz (and Polk and Definitive Technology). With this acquisition they will control a huge % of the receivers market.

[Link: dealerscope.com]

[Link: engadget.com]

[Link: whathifi.com]

This is really a crazy week for our industry!
Post 2 made on Wednesday May 15, 2019 at 04:11
dunnersfella
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So that's a thing...

Obviously that's a bunch of market share in one swoop! However it may be a case of too much of the same thing.
Onkyo/Pioneer/Integra are pretty much the same thing with different skins on top.
Marantz and Denon... same thing.

Will they all get HEOS / the same remote / the same GUI in the future?
Well, probably.
Will people still be loyal sheep and follow their brand name? Yes. Probably...
Will SNAP AV buy Sound United?
Well...
This industry is not getting cheaper and cheaper, we're simply convincing ourselves that we have to push the cheapest option to customers.
Post 3 made on Wednesday May 15, 2019 at 08:43
Rob Grabon
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ďAlex, Iíll take once important AV companies for $500Ē
No, I donít want you to read the answer, Iím literally offering you $500 for the company.

Next up?
Technology is cheap, Time is expensive.
Post 4 made on Wednesday May 15, 2019 at 09:18
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On May 15, 2019 at 03:25, charris said...
Sound United is the parent company of Denon & Marantz (and Polk and Definitive Technology). With this acquisition they will control a huge % of the receivers market.

[Link: dealerscope.com]

[Link: engadget.com]

[Link: whathifi.com]

This is really a crazy week for our industry!

3 dead links, or is my phone not doing internet today?
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened." - Winston Churchill
Post 5 made on Wednesday May 15, 2019 at 09:24
SWOInstaller
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On May 15, 2019 at 09:18, tomciara said...
3 dead links, or is my phone not doing internet today?

Yes they were dead, here are the links that I was able to find.

[Link: dealerscope.com]

[Link: engadget.com]

[Link: whathifi.com]
You can't fix stupid
Post 6 made on Wednesday May 15, 2019 at 11:39
FP Crazy
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And then there were 3

Yammy
Sony
Sound United

(Not including any of the small boutique brands like Anthem, Audio Control, NAD, etc)
Chasing Ernie's post count, one useless post at a time.
Post 7 made on Wednesday May 15, 2019 at 16:37
oprahthehutt.
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On May 15, 2019 at 11:39, FP Crazy said...
And then there were 3

Yammy
Sony
Sound United

(Not including any of the small boutique brands like Anthem, Audio Control, NAD, etc)

If the small boutique brands were smart they would partner with someone like Fusion and license their streaming software for placement into AVR's, Bars, range of wifi speakers etc.

Its one of the reasons I don't sell Anthem anymore. I can do much more with Marantz.
Post 8 made on Wednesday May 15, 2019 at 16:45
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On May 15, 2019 at 11:39, FP Crazy said...
And then there were 3

Yammy
Sony
Sound United

(Not including any of the small boutique brands like Anthem, Audio Control, NAD, etc)

The article about Paradigm, Anthem and Martin Logan says Anthem has 30% of the AVR market, at #4.
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 9 made on Wednesday May 15, 2019 at 17:00
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On May 15, 2019 at 16:37, oprahthehutt. said...
If the small boutique brands were smart they would partner with someone like Fusion and license their streaming software for placement into AVR's, Bars, range of wifi speakers etc.

Its one of the reasons I don't sell Anthem anymore. I can do much more with Marantz.

Several tried PlayFi, for the reasons you speak, the SOFTWARE failed miserably.

Looks like RoonLabs is making some traction though.
Technology is cheap, Time is expensive.
Post 10 made on Wednesday May 15, 2019 at 18:14
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On May 15, 2019 at 16:45, highfigh said...
The article about Paradigm, Anthem and Martin Logan says Anthem has 30% of the AVR market, at #4.

LOL, what article? There is no way in hell Anthem (as nice as they are) has 30% of the AVR market. BS! That is so far off the rails of reality.

I'm guessing it is a quote taken out of context. Like it is 30% of specialty dealers use Anthem or something like that.
Post 11 made on Wednesday May 15, 2019 at 21:10
dunnersfella
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I think they put a '0' on the end of Anthem's market share... or, more likely, they should have put the '0' in front of the 3... followed by a decimal point.

They would be below the margin of error in most countries around the world, surely?
This industry is not getting cheaper and cheaper, we're simply convincing ourselves that we have to push the cheapest option to customers.
Post 12 made on Thursday May 16, 2019 at 21:24
Archibald "Harry" Tuttle
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I hope they don't buy Yamaha.
I came into this game for the action, the excitement. Go anywhere, travel light, get in, get out, wherever there's trouble, a man alone.
Post 13 made on Friday May 17, 2019 at 10:47
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On May 16, 2019 at 21:24, Archibald "Harry" Tuttle said...
I hope they don't buy Yamaha.

I know. Then they would be selling motorcycles, engines, musical instruments, and Japanese military technology (just to name a few things that Yamaha is involved in).

A Heos imbedded grand piano. That would be something.
Chasing Ernie's post count, one useless post at a time.
Post 14 made on Saturday May 18, 2019 at 12:00 ...it's new!
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On May 15, 2019 at 18:14, Brad Humphrey said...
LOL, what article? There is no way in hell Anthem (as nice as they are) has 30% of the AVR market. BS! That is so far off the rails of reality.

I'm guessing it is a quote taken out of context. Like it is 30% of specialty dealers use Anthem or something like that.

The one that was at the top of this site on the day I posted-

[Link: cepro.com]

From the article-

"All three brands fared well in the recent CE Pro 100 Brand Analysis:

Anthem is the No. 1 brand of home theater preamps/processors, with a 30% marketshare (tied with Integra for the top spot). Anthem is the No. 4 AVR brand with a 31% marketshare."

I thought that maybe, whoever might have read my comment would check it out. It was in CEPro, after all but I guess I ignored that as the source.
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 15 made on Saturday May 18, 2019 at 12:33...it's new!
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Maybe 3.1 on a good day. Rarely spotted in the wild.
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened." - Winston Churchill
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