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Is there an aftermarket for gently used URC equipment?
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Post 16 made on Wednesday April 24, 2019 at 12:39
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MX-780 is not an oversell so you have that wrong. If programmed well it is perfect for a small system. Personally I go up a model or two to get a bigger LCD screen but the power and capability are there with what you have. We can help you better if you tell us what is actually wrong.

1. Was it programmed poorly so it doesn't work well? Or...

2. Are you unhappy because you are making changes and the installer has to charge you for those changes?

BTW a Fire device won't work with an infrared remote of any brand. Use a Roku if you want one remote for all.

URC is a pro grade remote that can do anything you ask it to. Caavo, Harmony, others are do it yourself or hobbyist remotes. We use pro remotes because we don't want complaints from our clients. Hobbyist remotes can be just fine if you understand the limitations and don't mind pressing help buttons or occasional glitches.
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Post 17 made on Wednesday April 24, 2019 at 13:11
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On April 24, 2019 at 12:35, Archibald "Harry" Tuttle said...
Because OP used the term "lads", I'm giving the installing home theater company benefit of the doubt.

Must have edited their posts- I just read them several times and didn't see 'lads' anywhere. If he did, it means he's likely a Brit- I see no reason to give the installers the benefit just because of that.
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Post 18 made on Wednesday April 24, 2019 at 13:13
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On April 24, 2019 at 12:39, tomciara said...
Hobbyist remotes can be just fine if you understand the limitations and don't mind pressing help buttons or occasional glitches.

Interesting that the remote for the URC MX-Home has a Help button- it works and it prevents phone calls.
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Post 19 made on Wednesday April 24, 2019 at 13:20
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On April 24, 2019 at 09:58, AspenQn said...
Sorry to burst your bubble lads but in no way shape or form am I "shilling" for Caavo or Harmony or any other product. I came here to ask a simple question to which a couple of folks answered politely unlike some of the rather snarky replies by a few others.

I appreciate the candor by the ones who actually answered my question but also using my astute power of observation picked up on a smell of blood in the water (also known as fear whether real or perceived) by the poster Fins.

There are many different kinds of consumers...just know that not all of us need such systems that require someone else to program or maintain them...

Fear? LMAO, hardly. You more than have the right to screw up everything doing it yourself. No one said differently. But your claims that a URC remote was an oversell says you either clearly haven’t researched the product, or you are trying to shill some junk that no one has heard of. In the end, it’s your wife that has to live with your DIY mess, not me.
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Post 20 made on Wednesday April 24, 2019 at 13:24
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On April 24, 2019 at 13:11, highfigh said...
Must have edited their posts- I just read them several times and didn't see 'lads' anywhere. If he did, it means he's likely a Brit- I see no reason to give the installers the benefit just because of that.

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Post 21 made on Wednesday April 24, 2019 at 13:29
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On April 24, 2019 at 13:24, Fins said...
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Wow- the only word I missed. Must be havin' one o' my spells.
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Post 22 made on Wednesday April 24, 2019 at 15:04
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On April 24, 2019 at 13:13, highfigh said...
Interesting that the remote for the URC MX-Home has a Help button- it works and it prevents phone calls.

CCP no help needed if everything is discrete and macros are good. Worst case, go back to main and press "Watch TV" again. No help needed unless Comcast goes down lol.
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Post 23 made on Wednesday April 24, 2019 at 16:53
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I've seen more then my fair share of crappily programmed remotes in the field. Those are usually the customer I earn for life after I reprogram. It's like a whole new system to the client. The main reason to upgrade to a level above the 780 is more advanced variables and stuff. Otherwise, the 780 is great for a small system. It can definitely handle the system the OP has. Whether it was program properly is a question yet to be answered. It sounds like he's just upset that the company wants to charge for their time to come out to reprogram. People have to stop figuring that all charges are for time on site. It's expensive to run a business and a small thing that takes 10 minutes still requires a truck roll. We have an hour minimum because of that.
Post 24 made on Wednesday April 24, 2019 at 19:15
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There is a class of user who does not value our services, even though they demand top, top dollar for their own services. Some of these are excellent candidates for DIY remotes. We have a medical doctor client who loves his Harmony and is proud of his accomplishment. He would never hire us to program anything. The program is a mess. His wife does not comment about the remote and if I stop by to work on the system I'll seek out and use the native remotes. I'm always careful to log the status of each unit before I start and leave the system in exactly that state when I'm done -- else his Harmony program will be out if its element.

In any of the DIY homes that I've visited, I don't think that the customer would accept the current level of functionality if they had paid me for the programming, but they are satisfied with their own work.

And, to be fair, some DIY's are capable of creating a program that results in a good user experience.
Post 25 made on Wednesday April 24, 2019 at 19:52
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On April 23, 2019 at 17:02, AspenQn said...
I would like to make a change to a universal remote system I can deal with myself and Caavo looks interesting. I think we were oversold with a system which was a lot more than we need. Not looking for a system to control everything from blinds to my thermostat but rather control my AVR/Blu-Ray Surround Sound andDirecTV HDVR for now and perhaps my Firestick. Our A/V equipment is located in an upstairs A/V closet and equipment with IR transmitters.

I thought Caavo was HDMI/CEC control only. I would make sure that you can use it with equipment located in another room before pulling the trigger.

Can I uninstall and sell the URC equipment since it is only a year old?

The answer is yes. Ebay currently has a used MX-780 plus base station for $38. An MX-780 for $36. Another for $30. A brand new one for $125

This should give you an idea of what you can sell it for.
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Post 26 made on Wednesday April 24, 2019 at 23:54
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On April 24, 2019 at 09:58, AspenQn said...

I appreciate the candor by the ones who actually answered my question but also using my astute power of observation picked up on a smell of blood in the water (also known as fear whether real or perceived) by the poster Fins.

Fins is not afraid. He's just angry. In general.
There are many different kinds of consumers...just know that not all of us need such systems that require someone else to program or maintain them...

I believe you are obliquely referring to yourself. The fact that whoever you're talking about does not need systems that require someone else to program or maintain them absolutely does not mean that every single one of those people will benefit from such remote controls.

On April 24, 2019 at 12:39, tomciara said...
URC is a pro grade remote that can do anything you ask it to. Caavo, Harmony, others are do it yourself or hobbyist remotes. We use pro remotes because we don't want complaints from our clients.

This simple statement obscures the truth that we can't depend on these remotes to keep doing, or always do, what they're programmed to do, so we can't sell them and know that there will EVER be a day when we won't get called back to fix something that once worked.

On April 24, 2019 at 19:15, buzz said...
I'm always careful to log the status of each unit before I start and leave the system in exactly that state when I'm done -- else his Harmony program will be out if its element.

This never occurred to me before: I bet a power outage is quite a party for Harmony remotes!
In any of the DIY homes that I've visited, I don't think that the customer would accept the current level of functionality if they had paid me for the programming, but they are satisfied with their own work.

This is a brilliant observation!
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Post 27 made on Thursday April 25, 2019 at 11:54
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Like a lot of these threads go, we start with a user that is misinformed, and does not understand fully the implications of the change they are about to make. Then we ask questions to try to get to the bottom of things, and they disappear.
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
Post 28 made on Thursday April 25, 2019 at 12:41
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Tom,
he didn't hear anything that he liked, so why would he continue to converse with us? From his point of view, there's nothing to be gained by sticking around.

That's better than him staying here and arguing with us. That would benefit nobody.
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Post 29 made on Thursday April 25, 2019 at 20:10
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You guys keep saying "he". But the poster's email begins with kathy. Maybe women.

However the whole email is [email protected]. Kathy... winch??? What woman would make an email for herself like that?
I smell a troll and it got 2 pages from it.
Post 30 made on Thursday April 25, 2019 at 20:52
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On April 25, 2019 at 20:10, Brad Humphrey said...
You guys keep saying "he". But the poster's email begins with kathy. Maybe women.

However the whole email is [email protected]. Kathy... winch??? What woman would make an email for herself like that?
I smell a troll and it got 2 pages from it.

Google the email address. You’ll find it at some other forums second guessing the experts they hired.
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