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| Topic: | Sunbrite Install:Some underground wire code questions and shielded cat 6 alongside power This thread has 37 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 30. |
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| Post 16 made on Monday June 5, 2017 at 09:41 |
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OK, so the plate has a 1" hole- why can't you make it larger?
Also, if the CAT5e/Cat6 is in flexible metal conduit, it can occupy the same conduit with the power wiring.
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| Post 17 made on Monday June 5, 2017 at 12:09 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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It seems ludicrous to only provide one wire path, so I'd call the factory and ask them what they had in mind, or how people use this product. Maybe they know of a way to do this that we haven't thought of that's obvious once you hear it.
They sell this thing. Seems they might know the right way to use it.
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| OP | Post 18 made on Monday June 5, 2017 at 13:38 |
It has rear openings as well with plugs. In fact that's probably what they want you to strictly use. I just had noticed it has a 1" opening at the bottom as well and this way would be a cleaner install. I'm sure I could cut the opening larger I just don't have the post in my hand yet to take a look. Also it's painted and galvanized. Obviously once you start cutting you damage that coating. Sure I can touch it up with paint afterword and it's underneath and it visible. Just probably won't be quite as corrosion resistant but I'm sure it would be fine.
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| Post 19 made on Monday June 5, 2017 at 13:40 |
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On June 4, 2017 at 19:35, Brad Humphrey said...
Doesn't matter about the post, because you can NOT put power and LV in same conduit = PERIOD actually you can if the low voltage is controlling the high voltage and the low voltage wiring has the same insulation rating as the HV wiring
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| Post 20 made on Monday June 5, 2017 at 18:34 |
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On June 5, 2017 at 13:40, Proggieus said...
actually you can if the low voltage is controlling the high voltage and the low voltage wiring has the same insulation rating as the HV wiring Not if the LV is a class 2 or 3 circuit (which is most certainly will be). Just because you run 18 THHN for your LV does not change the fact it is a Class 2 or 3 circuit - and there for illegal under NEC. 725.136 You can have class 2 or 3 wiring with class 1 HV in the same 'enclosure' providing proper spacing and partitions are in place. Maybe that is what you are getting confused on, as that section talks specifically about class 2/3 circuits controlling class 1 HV circuits.
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| Post 21 made on Monday June 5, 2017 at 21:37 |
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On June 5, 2017 at 13:40, Proggieus said...
actually you can if the low voltage is controlling the high voltage and the low voltage wiring has the same insulation rating as the HV wiring Which doesn't help here because it isn't.
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| Post 22 made on Monday June 5, 2017 at 22:31 |
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On June 5, 2017 at 12:09, Ernie Gilman said...
It seems ludicrous to only provide one wire path, so I'd call the factory and ask them what they had in mind, or how people use this product. Maybe they know of a way to do this that we haven't thought of that's obvious once you hear it.
They sell this thing. Seems they might know the right way to use it. Maybe they saw the headlines that indicate people are cutting the cable and took it literally.
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| Post 23 made on Monday June 5, 2017 at 22:33 |
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On June 5, 2017 at 13:40, Proggieus said...
actually you can if the low voltage is controlling the high voltage and the low voltage wiring has the same insulation rating as the HV wiring Why would the low voltage need to control it at the far end of the circuit? Why not do it inside of the structure? Unless it's a particularly long run and/or the current draw is excessive.....
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| OP | Post 24 made on Tuesday June 6, 2017 at 07:34 |
I decided how I am going to do it. Two conduit up center of post. Weatherproof outlet mounted on post. Make cutout larger in bottom of post up from the 1" round. Curious to hear what size conduit would you run for hdmi,cat 6, 22 gauge 2 conductor? I know it's easy to say go 2". But not looking to go that big. Most I can fit inside post is 1 1/4 for my cable and 3/4 for the electrician. Using hdmi cable with low profile head. I'd have a 90 degree coming up thru the concrete and where it enters basement. Another 90 at basement wall plus 90 at the L box. I wonder with two 90s if pulling thru 1 1/4 is gonna be hard.
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| Post 25 made on Tuesday June 6, 2017 at 08:27 |
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You can't run romex in conduit anymore.
THHN only.
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| Post 26 made on Tuesday June 6, 2017 at 08:30 |
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| Post 27 made on Tuesday June 6, 2017 at 09:02 |
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You should also use at least an extender instead of the hdmi cable. That is a nightmare waiting to happen.
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| OP | Post 28 made on Tuesday June 6, 2017 at 11:44 |
On June 6, 2017 at 08:27, Mario said...
You can't run romex in conduit anymore.
THHN only. Ok. Electrical ontractors handling that side of it. I'm sure he will use whatever meets code.
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| OP | Post 29 made on Tuesday June 6, 2017 at 11:46 |
On June 6, 2017 at 09:02, lippavisual said...
You should also use at least an extender instead of the hdmi cable. That is a nightmare waiting to happen. He opted for the 1080p sunbrite pro. Not pushing ultra hd over it. 25 foot cable. However I am also running shielded direct burial cat 6 just in case to future proof it. Any issues I'll toss a balun in.
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| OP | Post 30 made on Tuesday June 6, 2017 at 11:48 |
On June 6, 2017 at 08:30, Mario said...
lol I know. Just looking for real world info from those who have done it how easy it tends to pull they thru 1 1/2"
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