Not being force fed...just not afraid to sell people what they want.


LOL you talk about Kool-aid but you are selling a product that is only known for its marketing department.


Or Harmony...why are you selling that overprices RTI/URC/SAVANT when anyone can next day air a harmony for $400 that they can program themselves?

And when they do make it plug and play it will look like this ridiculous nonsense.



Love that exposed cable.

Just an example of how consumer product companies will never steal your customers. They dont know how to and they dont want to learn how to because if it takes more than 5 seconds of their time they kill the product and move to the next box mover product.

Keep believing that. No one will ever make a good electric car or solar panel I heard 10 years ago

Big box stores can never displace the local mom and pop hardware stores because of mom & pop's expertise, quality products, and community involvement,  right?

It's all going wireless too...i heard that 20 years ago and it still hasn't happened.

I think some of the "AV Guys" on this board need a dose of self esteem.

There is an Ace Hardware in every town in the Chicagoland area even though they are priced higher than Home Depot/Lowes/Menards. There are 116 ace hardwares within 50 miles of my house and only 29 Home Depots.

I only have one of each within some 50 miles of me.

Come down out of the mountains once in a while.

Every ace and true value I've been in around me is so poorly run I refuse to go in there. Miserable employees who don't know where anything is and packages half opened and a store that would be a rats paradise. The only store that I've been in that was nice was a true value that was down the shore.

I hate homedepot too, they have gone down the tubes in recent years. Lowes is much better. Hate that it's a big box but it's better then what's around me.

84 lumber is also a joke :/ .... the only mom and pop place worth a damn near me is a really nice cedar distributor and that's about it.

So are mom-n-pop hardware stores going to make a comeback now that Crestron supports the Sonos, or does this just play into the hands of the evil multi-nationals?

Sooooo...is this happening yet? I asked my programmer buddy if he's worked with Sonos yet, but he has not. I'm guessing a database update will contain the drivers when it's ready. I need to do that...but I figured I'd ask first.

Have had it up and running for a few weeks now. Modules released in October.

Excellent - thanks for the info, very glad to hear it!

We do luxury high end, and were early adopters of DigitalMedia when architects removed cabinets from every room. Video distribution is pretty much dead except in the upper reaches where there are just too many rooms and the project is commercial (or larger) in scope.

Same with remotes. We still need remotes (like the incredible TSR302) for rooms with more than a TV, but with TiVo we now have up to 10 rooms in a house with only a small box behind the TV and a TiVo remote (with qwerty keyboard) controlling TV and internet streaming.

Sonos still doesn't fit our clientele well (older set), but integrators with younger clients can do well with Sonos.

Selling Savant, Control4 and Crestron, I can tell you I can give you all three systems for the same price.