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REALLY odd AC Boggle
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Post 31 made on Tuesday September 28, 2004 at 01:12
jritch
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On 09/27/04 05:27 ET, teknobeam1 said...
70 vlots, I'd be thinking that something is on
a dimmer circuit. 70 volts wouldn't be considered
" low voltage"

Modern dimmers don't decrease the voltage. That would be a rheostat.

AVDUDE,

Is the voltage to neutral and to ground the same? Could it be wired in improperly with the 3 way side of an electronic dimmer. What is the voltage that electronic dimmers and their slave remotes (like the RA accessory dimmer) use back and forth?

Just a thought.

John
Post 32 made on Tuesday September 28, 2004 at 01:33
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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About that 65 volts...it could just be not knowing a picky little detail about measuring voltages with meters!

If your meter has a relatively high input impedance, and you are connecting it to ground and a wire that runs parallel to a hot wire, you have a capacitor (two wires running parallel) in series with a high impedance (meter) and you are reading the voltage drop across the meter. The other half or so of the voltage drop is across the capacitor (from the real hot lead to the one you are connecting to). 65 volts? Easy!

It is helpful to know this about meters when you rarely measure high voltage, because it will confuse you.

To see if this is the issue, see if there is any current to speak of on that "65 volt" wire. See if it will light any incandescent bulb. I bet it won't. I once saw a new outlet that measured perfectly with a socket tester, but there was a really poor connection somewhere. Electrician did not believe me when I told him he had a bad connection until he watched his tester while I tried to use a drill. Voltage went to zero because the connection could supply enough current to light a neon, but not to run a drill.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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Post 33 made on Tuesday September 28, 2004 at 15:28
oex
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AVDude,
If the wire goes up, how about peeling back the carpet and padding in the above room, and cutting open the floor to get a little more info. Might help. As for the voltage, use a regular electricians tester. They draw more power than hte digital units. The digital jobs autmatically switch to millivolts if your not paying attention.

If all else fails, Larry & I will come figure it out - with Sawzalls in hand!
Diplomacy is the art of saying hire a pro without actually saying hire a pro
Post 34 made on Tuesday September 28, 2004 at 22:08
Larry Fine
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On 09/28/04 19:28 ET, oex said...
If all else fails, Larry & I will come figure
it out - with Sawzalls in hand!

(In our best Tim Allen grunt): "Arrghh, arrghh, arrghh!"
OP | Post 35 made on Tuesday September 28, 2004 at 22:13
avdude
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I need more time to figure this fuster-cluck out...

but I also need a bunc of squeaks in my KB Crap Home fixed...so let's just get a weekend...make some planes, bring some tools, and rip this mother apart...

and I DO have regular AC testers, and I really do know how to use them! Had to pass a test und everthin...goo goo goo.....

and I DO still get 65-70, consistent, no matter HOW I test (to ground, red-blk, blk-wht, all to ground...it's just weird...

still working on it though!
AVDUDE
"It might work better if it were plugged in and programmed first...just a thought!"
Post 36 made on Thursday September 30, 2004 at 02:39
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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On 09/29/04 02:13 ET, avdude said...
and I DO still get 65-70, consistent, no matter
HOW I test (to ground, red-blk, blk-wht, all to
ground...it's just weird...

And there is enough current to light an incandescent light bulb, right?
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
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