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source for hooded wall plates?
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Post 1 made on Thursday July 15, 2004 at 15:31
TJG55
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where?
Post 2 made on Thursday July 15, 2004 at 18:01
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If by hooded you mean a large hole that comes out at a down angle then call ECD
(Electronic Custom Distributors)

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Post 3 made on Thursday July 15, 2004 at 23:11
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company name that make those is directconnect...

[Link: directconnecthome.com]

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Post 4 made on Friday July 16, 2004 at 12:16
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Also, the satellite distributors may still carry them.
In the old days, we used to use them to pass the C/K feedhorn and actuator control ribbon cables through the wall.
These days, you really should try to terminate everything... especially if any inspectors are due to visit after the run is done. Some guys are real jags and consider those the same as an open ring.
Rick Murphy
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Post 5 made on Friday July 16, 2004 at 21:31
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Actually, the NEC allows unterminated low-voltage wiring as long as it's clearly marked "for future use".

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Post 6 made on Friday July 16, 2004 at 22:03
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Even if the electrical inspector passes the unterminated cable, don't your guys give you grief for having an open ring?? Our local inspectors HATE low voltage rings, especially on exterior walls, and they make us plate and terminate everything to keep fire and/or moisture from moving into or out of the walls. I know in WI and MN they have use special foam gasketed J-boxes or these plastic back boxes and a specific grade of vapor barrier tape to seal behind open rings... It's not in the IL code yet, but sometimes they mention it to us if we're there, but haven't flagged anything yet.
Rick Murphy
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Post 7 made on Saturday July 17, 2004 at 10:56
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I absolutely agree that unused boxes and other openings should be blank-plated. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. I thought the discussion was about unterminated wiring.

Larry
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Post 8 made on Saturday July 17, 2004 at 11:57
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DirectConnect will not sell their product direct even though their name implies so.

I source them from Big Dog Distributing in Tennessee.

Throckmorton in Minnesota also sells them but their stocking situation has been troublesome.

Don't you just love these names, I used to get car insurance from General Accident til they pulled out of Wisconsin.
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Post 9 made on Saturday July 17, 2004 at 18:20
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Since we're on the subject, I am curious about some things.
Does anyone's local inspector bust their stones about passing cable through hooded plates or blanks modded with a unibit?? Or do they all want the wire terminated at the wallplate. I can understand openings on exterior walls in areas with stern vapor barrier building codes, but a penta cable to plasma on an interior wall should be allowed to slide.
I can't imagine the subcontract hacks that slam in panels for the superstores and the failed Gateway experiment paid as much attention to building codes.
Most of my jobs are new const. or gut remodels, so inspectors are always on site at some point.

On that note, I have been using the single gang, angled quickport plates to try to maintain the bend radius for signal cables to plasmas on exterior walls. I am interested in feedback, especially you Larry, and anyone else that would like to share experiences with inspectors.
Rick Murphy
Troy, MI
Post 10 made on Saturday July 17, 2004 at 23:37
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I've always just coiled the low-voltage wire inside the box, or tacked it behind a 'plaster ring', and never had an issue. In fact, I don't believe I've ever had an inspector even mention anything related to any low-voltage wiring I've ever done.

It's as if they don't notice it, or care about it, or as if they have no jurisdiction over it at all. Maybe I've been lucky. One thing I've learned is to never point something out and ask if it's okay. It's like being pulled over by a cop; keep quiet.

Larry
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Post 11 made on Sunday July 18, 2004 at 23:18
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Has anyone had inspector problems using BackBoxx type products in an outside wall to store coiled multicables?
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