do you mean by main source? Do you mean if you ditch the multi zone pre? If thats the case yes you can loop them forever.

No, I mean after the first four zones, all the rest of the zones would have the same source, or I would have to get a distribution amp to send the four zone outputs from the pre-amp to the other amps also.

Thanks,
Mark

I'm afraid your math is a bit off here. Three 8-ohm speakers in parallel presents a 2.667-ohm load; four in parallel is 2 ohms.

Larry
www.fineelectricco.com

We should all get some stock in Johnson and Johnson, their Bandaid division is really taking off. Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, just buy a good 8 channel amp at this point. My father always said, what is the use of doing something at all if you aren't going to do it right. If you need more speakers, group them together with a volume control. BTW-How are you going to control the four independant zones around the house?

Digitlife,

Did your father smack you around a lot when you were younger also? Just Kidding...

Mark

My intention wan't to come off as bitter. This thread is just killing me. Simple distributed audio has been something this industry has been doing for 20 years. It is the one thing in our trade that every company does on a daily basis. To be quite honest with you, I can't beleive that you have a multitude of people trying to tell you how to do something in a three pages of conversation that should be so routine. The kicker also is that nobody is listening to you the client on what you want. I think you made it clear that you will never use more than two zones, ever. Now you have the added complexities(eventhough simple ones)of dividing zones, controlling individual zones, as well, as splitting audio sources at your head end. Just my two cents, but I thought our industry was further along than what I have seen here.

Listen digitlife,

Everyone here is just trying to help someone (me) who obviously doesn't know much about audio systems. I'm not an idiot, I am an electrical engineer, with 10 yrs experience in PLC's robotics and other manufacturing equipment, so I can understand the stuff. I actually even remember circuits and sh!t from college. So if you don't have any helpful suggestions, please get the hell out of my thread, because I appreciate everyone else's help.

Mark

Are you really upset? I wasn't attacking you at all. I was making a point on how people are still doing things so diffrent in this industry. I did give you a reccomendation based on what you told the group. If you want to go down the route of zoned audio, that is great, I never recommend two zone systems unless the clients need dictate. What I was commenting on was all of the work arounds people were suggseting to get to your end result, when you really see the value in doing it right. And will spend the little extra money required to do it right. Which is what you are doing, minus one concern of control, which hasn't been addressed and I beleive should for your well being. That said, why do you keep bringing up that you are an electrical engineer like that is supposed to get you a different answer to your questions? No need to get fiesty with me, I never questioned your abilities. I use this forum to guage the industry as a whole so as to keep my business ahead of the curve, it has nothing to do with you. Relax.

Digitlife,

If I have misunderstood your remarks as rude, then I appologize, but I don't like smart remarks from people who think they are smarter than everyone else. If that was not your intent, then I am sorry for ranting. I only brought up the fact that I was an EE so that you would know that I can understand technical equipment, and I don't need a lot of hand holding. And I don't apply unintelligent "band-aid" techniques to any systems. I am just trying to learn about audio systems, so I may ask some questions that are beneath you. Please have patience, as I will learn.

Mark

didnt read the whoe thread but it seems this man needs a simple sonance 1230 or 1250 12 channel amp which will easily driver 11 prs of speakers in a single zone. run it off the 2nd zone output of the receiver, use 11 volume controls like the vc60rs and you are in business

Screwed up the reply, sorry about the double post.Anyways, Marky Mark, my responses were never directed at you, not once. Your questions were all fine and you got ligitimate responses. I repeat, my response was directed at the industry responding to your situation. They all tried to answer your questions and help you out, to the point where you eventually got to where you need to go. My concern is that there is still a lack of client qualification and listening that is going on in our industry that leads to clients not getting the right system. This is not the case here, since you are able to decipher what the installers were getting at. Most of the public is not that intuitive with this stuff. I just wanted to comment on that part of things. Not your system or understanding of them. Good Day, hope everything turns out good for you.

digi had it right - he listened and recommended a 12 channel amp with VC's with a retail of under $2,000 which meets MARKS REQUIREMENTS. Mark - If you would like to utilize individual room speakers for a local source like a TV then you can add an autoswitching amp (Sonance ASAP1) for each zone you wish to do that in. Your HT will be zone 1 now with zone 2 being the whole house stereo.

oex,

I know he did, but I didn't like his "better than everyone" attitude. At least this is the way I perceived his attitude. It was not just in this thread, but also in another one that I read before writing my rant. I may be wrong about digitlife, but even if you are smarter than everyone else, it is better to treat them as equals so that they can better themselves, not degrade them.

Just my 2 cents,
Thanks for all your help everyone,(including digitlife)

Mark

PS. Now that I think I know what I am doing, let's let this thread die... I'm sure I will have another thread to start after installation begins.... ;)

You really think I have a better than everybody attitude? I don't see it, that is definetley not me. If anybody also feels this way please let me know so I can adjust my responses. And BTW-I never belittled anybody on this thread, just evaluated there responses. Lets just put this to rest till we meet again, no harm , no foul. Unless of course others feel this way, too.