Ok guys, despite all the info we share with each other on a daily basis, and the fun we have bashing poor newbies who step into the land mines..It has gotten boring around here lately..I had promised avdude we would start a thread about the old school stuff some of us have been thru..before todays installers got so damn spoiled..these are some from me and please add you own..some of you old school guys (10 plus years )I am sure have a few.. these are both things that amuse me and laughs I have had over the years with new Installers..


1. Frox, Holy Crap!!!
2. IR will work without a connecting block??
3. Boss this connecting block I just pulled out is missing a cover..
4.You mean you have not always had 16/4??
5. Soundsteam +5 volts on pin 6&8
6. What are solder on RCA's??
7. What's 22/4???
8. Wow, how are we gonna hang this 3 gun projector??
9. Structured Wiring?? Where is the plywood??

LOL, ha, ha, ha, LOL... those are great... I, uh...
OK, I didn't get any of them.

Consider this poor newbie bashed. But have pitty. Do you have any idea how expensive it is for us newbies to learn this stuff on our own? A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. What am I doing here?!

Sometimes I wonder if I would save money if I just gave one of you guys 20 grand to set me up.

I have many...just gotta remember them...call me DORY!

But one of my favorite old school tools is the wire stretcher, anyone still using these?

avdude
www.integrationpros.com

Just got finished using the wire stretcher about 20 minutes ago. Have you seen the new WXK-9000 model. Not only does it stretch the cable but it will also re-gauge the wire as well as convert from solid core to strander and vice-versa.


Robbie S

1. New ir carrier frequencies from Pioneer
2. Sony DST systems
3. Beta testing amplifiers for a west coast manufacturer without knowing you were beta testing amplifiers (anonymous to protect from retributions. You probably know who....)
4. Caller id on a phone system?
5. The speech from the manufacturer "I know we had trouble this past year, but I promise we're past that. We really want to make it up to you...."
6. Beolink systems. Anybody got a multiconductor shieled wire????

Beolink systems,,,Now that is a good one Fred...Had to troubleshoot one of these after only 2 years experience in a house that was hit by lightening...It took me about a week, but I finally got it running..and another time client had a renovation and the builder just happened to cut the wire between linkboxes...I had to use Soundstream 4sp wire write the color code of course and patch it back togather...

THXRick

Hmmm... Did many a Beolink system... How about the Luxman system??? Cant remeber the Model numbers off hand but those were a ball...

Speaking of balls... Not quite 10 years... But will we ever forget the Adcom "The Ball"????

A/D/S Multi-Room.....

Soundstream S3 (I believe the S3 was the keypad system)

Phantom Powered IR Systems

I'm sure More will come to me............






This message was edited by Impaqt on 04/06/04 19:29.

The Soundstream system used the TOUCH-1 as a learning keypad that also would control there amps, RA-100's..I do vaguely remember the BALL it did not last long did it?? Pulled out a few Luxman's..The Soundstream R-1,R-2,R-3's were killer remotes for the day...

THXRick

The Ball was basically a Escient Tunebase Pro with a A/V Remote built into it..... Came with a Wireless Mouse... (The Ball.....) bad bad bad....

I actually have a couple SS Keypads around my house.... Alone with an R3 Remote...... I think I'm going to start a Remote control museum........ I got a Ton of em.....

how long ago were the terms "Plug and Play" and "UNIVERSAL Remote" actually coined...cause I sure as HELL think those can be commonly mis-used, mis-understood, and mis-applied...ohh, and heres one more...

I'll bet I can STILL get a hundred different answers for this: What IS a BNC (technical definition of what the acronym stands for?!) He he he!

Everyone knows it's Braided Nickel Cadmium. Actually, I'm guessing the first word is Bayonette?

I can see the Y in a Y connector. Where's the F in an F connector?

1. You can get a TV with a UHF tuner built in?
2. Stereo AM?? No way!
3. That little silver disc has music on it?
4. The remote uses a beam of light?
5. What does "Dolby" mean?
6. Quadrasonic? More than two channels??
7. High-fidelity stereo from a cassette?
8. How can so many channels fit through one cable?
9. I can get paid for doing this?!?
10.Personal computer???

or MAYBE it's Boneheaded New Customer?

the "F" is in the sentence, "F&*K that hurts" when you jame the stinger through you're finger while terminating the damn things for the first six months of your career! This of course was PRE some of the tools we have today to spare the rookies of the pain...by the way, those same tools were designed by veterans twenty years ago to prevent the above sentence!

"BNC, BNC connector:
Short for BayoNet Connector or Baby N Connector or Bayonet Neill-Concelman (for the inventors Paul Neill and Carl Concelman who developed the similar N and C connectors separately and the BNC and TNC connectors together). It is also sometimes called a British Naval Connector, although the origin is questionable. A twist-and-lock connector for coaxial cable, BNC connectors are used for electronic equipment and LANs and permit frequencies into the gigaHertz ranges."

"The "Bayonet Neil-Concelman" or "Bayonet Navy Connector" or "Baby Neil Connector," depending on the information source. Karl W. Concelman is believed to have created the "C" connector. The BNC was designed for military use and has gained wide acceptance in video and RF applications to 2 GHz. The BNC uses a slotted outer conductor and some plastic dielectric on each gender connector. This dielectric causes increasing losses at higher frequencies. Above 4 GHz, the slots may radiate signals, so the connector is usable, but not necessarily mechanically stable up to about 10 GHz. Both 50 ohm and 75 ohm versions are available."