Yes we are getting somewhere, thanks for the info avdude. I dont whant to focus on "three houses a day" because just trust me that amount of business is there as soon as I want it. It is a builder, and if you all dont know, if you put a systems in one house you have to do it to all. But as like someone said, I have to be good or I will screw them. That is why I started, for the most part ;) here. I know that I will have to be just as good as all of you, then better! So I have a lot of work to do. I will be back at a later date to tell you all how it is going. Thanks again for the feedback.

First.... Your not impressing anyone with your three houses a day thing...... Its basically immposible..... The company I'm with Works in as many as 15-20 different homes a day.... But we've got over a dozen installers and a large retail base that provides a lot of delevery and basic setup business. I cant ever recall a job I would consider "Home Automation" taking a day.......


Um..... No.... You put your "Home AUtomation" in the homes where the homeowners wish to BUY it. A Builder is NOT going to pay top dollar for you to put "Home Automation" in every model.... Not if hes building three houses a day... (Which would have to be that case since your installing three systems a day)


You got into business to screw builders???? Congradulations... Your off to a fine start...........



Well... With that I wish you luck..... In order to get as good and better than most of the people here your going to have to stay in business for a while... I would concentrate on that FIRST......



Understatemnet of the year right there......




How bout checking back now and attempt to tell us what your trying to do and what state your in? Are you avoiding those 2 Extremely basic requests for some reason???

Again, Impaqt, please dont focus on 3 houses a day. If you REALLY have to know. I don't know if it will be 3 every day, however, it COULD be. And if you know anything about business you have to be ready for that. But trust me if will be 1-3 a day. But another thing to take in consideration is that I am in FLORIDA, there you go, and it is not the country, we have a lot of building going on down here. And a lot of people that will/are going to pay. Let me explain something to you. I WOULD NOT be asking for help and lie about the amount of business that I am doing. It is not logical, and we both know that we are all probably pretty logical in this forum :) Ok lets get to business.

I am currently doing the structured wiring, home theather, and anything computer related, for a few major builders. The only thing missing is the home automation. These houses range from 250,000 to multi-mil. So there will be different levels of products, but I wanted one standing package. An afortable one that can be sold to go in the majority of the homes. Does this help? If not I can give more detail.

Ok, so how many installers do you have currently if you are already doing home theater, structured wiring, and computer stuff?????

Better yet how is it you do all of these things and know absolutely nothing about home automation and or security systems?????

Again I agree with everyone else. You'd be lucky to do 1 a day. Automation is generally tailored to the individual customer not the builder and you'll spend a great deal of time with that customer getting to know his/her/their habits and needs. Granted we do some spec homes with a "standard" automation package. But it's very very basic and designed so that we can change/upgrade/or eliminate it.

All I can say is keep your insurance paid up.

Robbie S

We have a selected few not but in the process of getting about 15 total specialits. Is that enough or more/less? Now granted I would only be doing one a day, personally. Maybe that is where I am loosing everyone. But I will be in charge of the work that is completed across the board.

And, Avdude, to answer your previous question, I want more on the Automation side instead of the security side. I thought they went hand and hand. Thanks

Forgetting MANY of the other issues here, frankly it wouldn't surprise me too much to see a large construction development where 3 houses a day were being wired by several crews during the wiring phase for "home automation". Just as they could be wired with "security systems", which could mean a keypad at the front and garage door, a sensor for each of the doors and maybe a motion sensor or two.

Similarly, a "home automation" system might mean a security keypad that triggers 5 or 6 light switches on and off and adjusts the thermostat down. And keep in mind that each system will be as IDENTICAL ass possible with absolutely no customization included. That's the way the large builders typically do it.

So it all depends on what you call "home automation".

The builder/developer is his dad or he married the builder's daughter. Close guess?

We still dont know what you think Home automation is.....

Are your going to control Any or all of the folowing......

HVAC
Lighting
Zoned Multi-Room Audio
ZOned Multi-Room Video Distribution(Composite, S, Component, or RGB)
Pools
Sprinkler systems
ALarm/Security Systems
CCTV
Intercom

These are all systems than can be part of a "Home Automation" system.



This message was edited by Impaqt on 04/06/04 12:35.

Also, at three a day your going to have to start allocating time and resources for "customer service" fairly soon. The last company that tried to ramp up and do that kind of volume around here left a lot of people hanging. They were pretty good at the sales and presentation game, as the new "structured wiring" sort of sold itself, but soon they were overwhelmed with the details of tracking job progress/status, customer service, ect. Now Best Buy is entering the fray through sub-contractors, we'll have to see how that plays out.

Oh the blissfull days of being naive...Does it not just make you bring a tear to the eye, when we all thought this was a great field to get in??? Tim I will not bash you as bad as I want too right now..But if you do not love this stuff with every fiber of your being, willing to neglect all family and friends, willing to work to the point of exhaustion, then program for a few hours, in the middle of August...Run Away.....Quickly


THXRick

I just got the laugh of my life...Thanks Timmy for making my day. Just remember what your daddy said little guy..."If you believe you can do it, you just might be able to make everyone else believe it too!" Maybe if you click your heels together you and Toto will go back to kansas too.

Sound like Cheap Over the border labor.
One KING sized lawsuit will take care of Tim's dilemna.
Just hope he doesn't scare people away from the various systems.

"structured wiring" Pretty vague term. "Home Theater" another vague term.

Look-out Florida, Here comes Tim with his sales brochure and a shiny new drill-bit!!

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I took your advise and re-read "How to win friends". I particularly liked the chapter about not blowing smoke up peoples' asses. They don't like it. As for your license dilemma, you'll have to do your own research. Go to your local town hall and ask for business regulations.

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