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URC Lutron Dimmers
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Post 1 made on Thursday November 18, 2010 at 11:48
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 I've never used the URC dimmers.  Quick question, are they single pole or can you use them with the Lutron Maestro companion dimmers for 3-way or 4-way? I assume I can, just wanted to verify before I grabbed a couple to play around with.  Thanks,
Post 2 made on Thursday November 18, 2010 at 12:41
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Third post down lists Accessory Switches and Dimmer Model #'s:

[Link: remotecentral.com]
OP | Post 3 made on Thursday November 18, 2010 at 12:54
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 Perfect.  Thanks.  I assume I can use the Lutron Maestro accessory dimmers and don't need to use the URC or is that not the case?
Post 4 made on Thursday November 18, 2010 at 13:38
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Yes, you can use the Lutron Maestro accessory dimmers with the URC parts.
Post 5 made on Thursday November 18, 2010 at 21:35
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What he said ^. We did a system a few weeks ago as such. Worked great. :)
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Post 6 made on Thursday December 8, 2011 at 21:01
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Related questions:

Do the maestros have to be on the same gang or same room ok?

Do the Maestros have to be the RF variety or IR ok?

Will the maestros be capable of multiple scenes or just the URC dimmer?

Basically, do I just need a single URC RF dimmer and can the rest be Accessory dimmers for multiple scenes?

Thanks
Post 7 made on Thursday December 8, 2011 at 22:25
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On December 8, 2011 at 21:01, richmond remote said...
Related questions:

Do the maestros have to be on the same gang or same room ok?

Do the Maestros have to be the RF variety or IR ok?

Will the maestros be capable of multiple scenes or just the URC dimmer?

Basically, do I just need a single URC RF dimmer and can the rest be Accessory dimmers for multiple scenes?

Thanks

Do you even understand what they were talking about?

Do you know what an accessory dimmer is? How about a 3-way circuit?

I suggest you find a local pro and hire him, at least as a consultant.
"You can't fix stupid."
Post 8 made on Friday December 9, 2011 at 09:16
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On December 8, 2011 at 22:25, TRCGroup said...
Do you even understand what they were talking about?

Do you know what an accessory dimmer is? How about a 3-way circuit?

I suggest you find a local pro and hire him, at least as a consultant.

If I knew I wouldn't ask. Pardon my ignorance, I'm just trying to better understand what I need. Even if I use a pro/consultant I should have some basic knowledge of the setup. My basic non-professional understanding is that if I have several lights in a basement that are controlled by 4 switches I can use a URC Lutron RF dimmer and the rest can be companion dimmers. That's all I'm asking. Companion dimmers are substantially cheaper than URC RF dimmers. I'm just trying to get a ballpark idea of what I'm looking at. No need to get testy...
Post 9 made on Friday December 9, 2011 at 15:59
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On December 8, 2011 at 21:01, richmond remote said...
Related questions:

Do the maestros have to be on the same gang or same room ok?

The maestro accessory dimmer (or switch) would be used in the same room. One URC RF dimmer and one URC accessory dimmer (or Maestro accessory dimmer) controlling the same load (light).
Do the Maestros have to be the RF variety or IR ok?

It would be listed as a Maestro accessory or companion MA-R.
Will the maestros be capable of multiple scenes or just the URC dimmer?

The scenes are created in the remote software. Both the URC RF dimmer and the accessory/companion dimmer will allow you to ramp lighting up/dow & on/off.
Basically, do I just need a single URC RF dimmer and can the rest be Accessory dimmers for multiple scenes?

The URC RF dimmer will let you create 8 unique scenes. The accessory/companion dimmer has nothing to do with the scenes.
Thanks
Post 10 made on Saturday December 10, 2011 at 11:55
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On December 9, 2011 at 09:16, richmond remote said...
If I knew I wouldn't ask. Pardon my ignorance, I'm just trying to better understand what I need. Even if I use a pro/consultant I should have some basic knowledge of the setup. My basic non-professional understanding is that if I have several lights in a basement that are controlled by 4 switches I can use a URC Lutron RF dimmer and the rest can be companion dimmers. That's all I'm asking. Companion dimmers are substantially cheaper than URC RF dimmers. I'm just trying to get a ballpark idea of what I'm looking at. No need to get testy...

One dimmer or switch per load even if the load is several lights. The
accessory dimmers are only to replace 3way or 4way switches. So, in a multi-gang box, some switches could be single pole and some 3way or 4way. You can't put a sgl dimmer in and multiple acc dimmers like you describe. The acc dimmers don't actually dim anything, they just pass the signal/voltage thru.
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Post 11 made on Saturday December 10, 2011 at 19:23
richmond remote
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Really appreciate the replies. Had my AV guy over today and he priced me up a quote with all 5 dimmers being URC Lutron RFs, he didn't even know that accessory dimmers were an option (which are significantly less expensive). He says that in all likelihood whatever the dimming level the main URC dimmer is at will be the same on the accessories, is this correct or can a scene be created with dimmers at different levels?

Also, 4 of the switches are on one circuit and the 5th one is on another circuit, can the one on the separate circuit also get an accessory dimmer?

Thanks again
Post 12 made on Saturday December 10, 2011 at 20:57
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He didn't know about accessory dimmers? You sure you want him doing your electrical?
Post 13 made on Saturday December 10, 2011 at 22:12
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Yep, he was clueless. And I knew zero about this 48 hrs ago. Amazing what you learn online. Hence the value of doing DD as opposed to being a mindless drone as TRGroup suggested.
Post 14 made on Sunday December 11, 2011 at 01:41
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On December 10, 2011 at 22:12, richmond remote said...
Yep, he was clueless. And I knew zero about this 48 hrs ago. Amazing what you learn online. Hence the value of doing DD as opposed to being a mindless drone as TRGroup suggested.

Did you even read what I suggested? I suggested that you hire a pro at least as a consultant. I never suggested that you be a mindless drone.

Your AV guys seems just a little less clueless about lighting than you are.

You are dealing with high voltage, not low voltage. If you wire up an IR repeater incorrectly, you won't burn your house down. Asking how to spec light dimmers in a chat room when you clearly don't understand the concept isn't the best idea.

GLS explained it pretty well, but you still don't seem to grasp the concept.

All you stated was that you had several lights controlled by four switches. That's not enough information to give you the correct advice. Will any one switch turn on all the lights at the same time? Does each switch turn on different lights? Are any of the switches duplicated on another wall? The answers to these questions will get you better help.
"You can't fix stupid."
Post 15 made on Monday December 12, 2011 at 10:01
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On December 11, 2011 at 01:41, TRCGroup said...
Did you even read what I suggested? I suggested that you hire a pro at least as a consultant. I never suggested that you be a mindless drone.

Your AV guys seems just a little less clueless about lighting than you are.

You are dealing with high voltage, not low voltage. If you wire up an IR repeater incorrectly, you won't burn your house down. Asking how to spec light dimmers in a chat room when you clearly don't understand the concept isn't the best idea.

GLS explained it pretty well, but you still don't seem to grasp the concept.

All you stated was that you had several lights controlled by four switches. That's not enough information to give you the correct advice. Will any one switch turn on all the lights at the same time? Does each switch turn on different lights? Are any of the switches duplicated on another wall? The answers to these questions will get you better help.

OK, here is my set up, hopefully this will be helpful




1-switch for light in separate room, does not need to be controlled by remote.
2-dimmer for single recessed light in movie area, would like to be able to control
3-dimmer for 4 incandescent recessed lights in movie area, would like to control
4-dimmer for 5 incandescent recessed lights in bar area, would like to control

5-dimmer for 4 incandescent recessed lights in main entry area to the room, would like to control

6-3 way switch for 6 incandescent recessed lights in opposite side of basement which will be a sitting area, would like to control and change to dimmer

1-5 are all on the same circuit (I can switch them all off with the same switch at the breaker box), 6 is on a separate circuit.

I do not intend to install any dimmers myself, I have an electrician that will do that, I would like to purchase the switches online myself for cost control and would program the remote myself. AV guy is recommending URC MX 880 and URC MSC 400 controller. I would like to be able to have several scenes for dimmers 2-6. Look forward to replies :)
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