Your Universal Remote Control Center
RemoteCentral.com
Custom Installers' Lounge Forum - View Post
Previous section Next section Previous page Next page Up level
Up level
The following page was printed from RemoteCentral.com:

Login:
Pass:
 
 

Page 2 of 3
Topic:
HDMI over single Coax
This thread has 31 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 30.
Post 16 made on Friday September 10, 2010 at 09:29
Duct Tape
Loyal Member
Joined:
Posts:
November 2008
5,299
On September 10, 2010 at 08:57, AACTrent said...
Duct Tape,

I'm glad your results were good! We did some pretty nasty things during our testing, like cutting a 200 foot run of RG-6 into eight 25-foot sections, then barrel-connecting them back together.

The only real weakness of the system discovered thus far is that it really doesn't like soldered-on connectors (it creates an impedance problem).

It includes mounting tabs in the box.

We have not tested with Planet Waves cable.

Cool, there are times that I could see us possibly having to splice a couple RG6's together for retro jobs on the boats.  So it is good to know that it will work in this worst case scenario situation.

I have some Planet Waves cable kicking around, I will bring some home this weekend and try it out.
[Link: facebook.com]
Post 17 made on Friday September 10, 2010 at 15:07
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
Yes, That Ernie!
Joined:
Posts:
December 2001
30,104
I'm wondering if we should come up with better name for this kind of signal transfer, and for "HDMI over CAT5" as well.

This system gets an HDMI signal from one place to another, but not via an HDMI cable. Similarly, RF remote control systems get IR from one place to another without wires or light, but we don't call them "Wireless IR" or "Lightless IR," we call them RF systems. We don't call voice radio transmissions "sound without air," either.

Sure, this wiring HDMI system has an HDMI connector at each end, and it meets HDMI specs for video, handshake, etc, but there is no HDMI signal on the RG6. Voice radio communication uses a microphone at one end and a speaker at the other, a case parallel to this one, but it's called radio. And HDMI is a wired connection using HDMI cables with many conductors, HDMI connectors, etc.

If we continue to call this HDMI over RG6, there's no logical reason not to say that some particular piece of RG6 is an HDMI cable. It's carrying an HDMI signal, right?
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 18 made on Friday September 10, 2010 at 20:20
Duct Tape
Loyal Member
Joined:
Posts:
November 2008
5,299
 I tested the Planet Waves cable.   I had 135 feet left on a roll, so I tried putting BNC connectors on each end.  I was able to view the Oppo screen saver, but as soon as I hit play to watch the bluray disc, the picture cut in and out.   So I decided to cut the cable down to exactly 100 feet.  At 100 feet I had no issues with the signal cutting out.  I had a perfect picture!




[Link: facebook.com]
Post 19 made on Friday September 10, 2010 at 22:16
bricor
Advanced Member
Joined:
Posts:
March 2006
902
We could call it SLTH setup (sucks less than HDMI)
or a NAPOSH (Not a POS HDMI)
;)

On September 10, 2010 at 15:07, Ernie Bornn-Gilman said...
I'm wondering if we should come up with better name for this kind of signal transfer, and for "HDMI over CAT5" as well.

This system gets an HDMI signal from one place to another, but not via an HDMI cable. Similarly, RF remote control systems get IR from one place to another without wires or light, but we don't call them "Wireless IR" or "Lightless IR," we call them RF systems. We don't call voice radio transmissions "sound without air," either.

Sure, this wiring HDMI system has an HDMI connector at each end, and it meets HDMI specs for video, handshake, etc, but there is no HDMI signal on the RG6. Voice radio communication uses a microphone at one end and a speaker at the other, a case parallel to this one, but it's called radio. And HDMI is a wired connection using HDMI cables with many conductors, HDMI connectors, etc.

If we continue to call this HDMI over RG6, there's no logical reason not to say that some particular piece of RG6 is an HDMI cable. It's carrying an HDMI signal, right?
Post 20 made on Saturday September 11, 2010 at 07:57
Dawn Gordon Luks
Founding Member
Joined:
Posts:
September 2001
1,178
HDMI Transport ??
Post 21 made on Sunday September 12, 2010 at 13:03
Ranger Home
Super Member
Joined:
Posts:
June 2007
3,486
On September 10, 2010 at 22:16, bricor said...
We could call it SLTH setup (sucks less than HDMI)
or a NAPOSH (Not a POS HDMI)
;)

Now that right there is funny!
Post 22 made on Sunday September 12, 2010 at 22:17
jimstolz76
Loyal Member
Joined:
Posts:
December 2007
5,607
On September 10, 2010 at 20:20, Duct Tape said...
 I tested the Planet Waves cable.   I had 135 feet left on a roll, so I tried putting BNC connectors on each end.  I was able to view the Oppo screen saver, but as soon as I hit play to watch the bluray disc, the picture cut in and out.   So I decided to cut the cable down to exactly 100 feet.  At 100 feet I had no issues with the signal cutting out.  I had a perfect picture!

Over the single conductor 24awg Planet Waves wire?
Post 23 made on Monday September 13, 2010 at 08:27
Duct Tape
Loyal Member
Joined:
Posts:
November 2008
5,299
On September 12, 2010 at 22:17, jimstolz76 said...
Over the single conductor 24awg Planet Waves wire?

affirmative.   i was surprised

[Link: facebook.com]
Post 24 made on Monday September 13, 2010 at 10:52
Jeff at Zektor
Active Member
Joined:
Posts:
August 2009
596
Can we use that term in our new data sheet or do I have to pay you a copyright fee?
Jeff Haynes
The CA Guy
Coastal Source [email protected] 619-889-3700
Post 25 made on Tuesday September 14, 2010 at 13:15
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
Yes, That Ernie!
Joined:
Posts:
December 2001
30,104
I just ran across the Multimedia over Coax Alliance. It's mentioned on page 90 of the September CEPro; they will be at CEDIA.

Someone please check into what they're doing. Maybe these guys could be, or maybe just want to be, a clearing house for all of these types of products.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 26 made on Friday January 14, 2011 at 01:40
ShadySprings
Lurking Member
Joined:
Posts:
January 2011
1
On September 10, 2010 at 09:28, Duct Tape said...
I'm not a videophile by any stretch of the imagination, but it looked perfect to me.  I was using a test disc that came with the oppo.


So does anyone know if this is compressed? I've been using hdmi over 5coax and single sounds great. but what am giving up?
Post 27 made on Tuesday January 18, 2011 at 10:12
AAC_Anthony
Audio Authority Corp.
Joined:
Posts:
September 2010
167
>ShadySprings

The unit does use some sort of compression however I can't see a difference between the 5 wire and the single wire. You can find more info via our website.
[Link: audioauthority.com]

Thanks
AAC_Anthony
Anthony Grote | Account Manager
859-685-1294, www.audioauthority.com
Follow us - [Link: twitter.com]
Post 28 made on Tuesday January 18, 2011 at 17:56
amirm
Advanced Member
Joined:
Posts:
December 2008
780
This is a curios statement in the FAQ:

"Q: Does the HXE-11 work with HD-DVD players?
A: No, the HXE-11 does not handshake or pass any signals from HD-DVD players."

What is different about HDMI on an HD DVD player vs any other source?
Amir
Founder, Madrona Digital, http://madronadigital.com
Founder, Audio Science Review, http://audiosciencereview.com
Post 29 made on Tuesday January 18, 2011 at 19:29
edizzle
Loyal Member
Joined:
Posts:
March 2005
5,916
On January 18, 2011 at 17:56, amirm said...
This is a curios statement in the FAQ:

"Q: Does the HXE-11 work with HD-DVD players?
A: No, the HXE-11 does not handshake or pass any signals from HD-DVD players."

What is different about HDMI on an HD DVD player vs any other source?

that is funny! obviously typo?

man, i didnt realize that product used compression. that stinks. ive got a project with one specced. the idiot that prewired this million dollar condo ran three RG6 coax to the fireplace. we are using a high end flat panel and top notch components, i hate to use anything with compression. may have to look into other options.
I love supporting product that supports me!
Post 30 made on Friday February 22, 2013 at 06:14
sait
Lurking Member
Joined:
Posts:
February 2013
2
Hi,
If appropriate for you you can use HDMI over fiber optic cable extender or HDMI over TCP/IP extender with cat6 data cable, like the ones in this link: [Link: telkolink.com]
Page 2 of 3


Jump to


Protected Feature Before you can reply to a message...
You must first register for a Remote Central user account - it's fast and free! Or, if you already have an account, please login now.

Please read the following: Unsolicited commercial advertisements are absolutely not permitted on this forum. Other private buy & sell messages should be posted to our Marketplace. For information on how to advertise your service or product click here. Remote Central reserves the right to remove or modify any post that is deemed inappropriate.

Hosting Services by ipHouse