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Storing data on an MX-980 that's unrelated to its program
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Post 1 made on Tuesday August 12, 2014 at 19:41
Ernie Gilman
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In programming the MX-980, I've run across something I hadn't seen before, suggested by its having CE on board. That is, I can access storage space on the remote.

Can I store a backup of the program I've developed for the remote? There's already a "My Documents" section on the remote (but only about 9 Mb free space).

If it bricks the remote, then, well, no, I'd rather not do that!

But what else is not obvious about this remote, and that occurs or can be done because it uses CE?
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Post 2 made on Tuesday August 12, 2014 at 21:12
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You want to use it to store stuff? Hiding porn or something from the wife?

You can already transfer the program from the remote to your computer, since it stores your file on the remote already. So what would the benefit of storing a second copy of your file be?
OP | Post 3 made on Tuesday August 12, 2014 at 21:52
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Well... it "stores your file." Hmmm.

CCP doesn't call it "storing on remote," but Downloading. This is reminiscent of the difference between copying and installing.

Does it store it as a file, or does transferring it to the remote install it so that it can operate, which means it's not on the remote as a file?

If something were to go wrong with the way the file works, maybe another copy of the file, that could be copied off, then downloaded. Of course, if the remote goes bad, such a file would perhaps be just as likely to be damaged. Just bein' paranoid and trying to think outside the socket.
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Post 4 made on Tuesday August 12, 2014 at 23:50
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I'm paranoid that the key to my house will get a chip and no longer unlock my door, so I wanna just borrow my friends key to his house to unlock my door. It's a lock, and a key so it will work i presume.

I seriously wonder how and why things go through your mind. I mean that in actual curiosity. If you are not saving copies of your work and relying on the hopes that a backup copy can be stored on the actual device that stores the original file, then you really have to revisit your procedures. We save all remote files to dropbox. All of the company and tech computers have the dropbox file folder which backs up the files to each computer. We also backup to two local NAS drives in the office. So when that remote sh1ts the bed, a copy of the file is a stone throw away.
OP | Post 5 made on Thursday August 14, 2014 at 01:54
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On August 12, 2014 at 23:50, goldenzrule said...
I'm paranoid that the key to my house will get a chip and no longer unlock my door, so I wanna just borrow my friends key to his house to unlock my door. It's a lock, and a key so it will work i presume.

I have zero idea what you are trying to say here.

I seriously wonder how and why things go through your mind. I mean that in actual curiosity. If you are not saving copies of your work and relying on the hopes that a backup copy can be stored on the actual device that stores the original file, then you really have to revisit your procedures.

I'm the guy who knew how to do graphics with Epson printers in the DOS era because I wondered why someone would waste half of the possible characters on italics... and found that the higher order ASCII characters could be printed where everyone else put one or two words in italics in every ten documents.

I ask questions about things because I find that if you only learn exactly what's needed to solve a particular problem, you'll miss out on growing and being able to do things that other people aren't aware of. I see that there's memory in the remote; I see that it uses CE; I wonder what that means and I ask about it. Sorry to bother you.

I keep at least two copies of all system files. I have the 100 or so Gb dropbox account, so I understand that approach:

We save all remote files to dropbox. All of the company and tech computers have the dropbox file folder which backs up the files to each computer. We also backup to two local NAS drives in the office. So when that remote sh1ts the bed, a copy of the file is a stone throw away.

Your NAS is a good idea. You've got to realize that dropbox can go away in an instant, just as any puff of the cloud can evaporate when the heat is on. And isn't it possible, if dropbox goes away, for that to signal all the computers to delete their copies?

Of course, that's just a question that I'm asking.
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Post 6 made on Thursday August 14, 2014 at 07:12
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The dropbox folder should keep the files regardless of what happens to their servers. They act ad s normal folder when offline. The files should be safe. Either way the files are also backed up to the nas drives as well just in case.
Post 7 made on Tuesday August 19, 2014 at 13:58
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Even if you could store files on the remote, I wouldn't. The simple reason for that is if something happens to the programming on the remote, chances are, all of the memory is wiped or corrupted at that point and would need to be factory reset and/or reloaded.

As mentioned above, use a different form of backup. Dropbox or some other cloud-based backup may serve you best. Alternately, you can get a good USB thumb drive for a reasonable price and keep it on hand, since that's the most universal type of connection at the moment.


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