I'm trying to get some codes into a MX-950 through the universal browser for a single toggle button Somfy motorized blind remote. I've been able to learn the command to a TS1000 Pronto, and it works fine. The MX-950 won't learn the command, so I'm trying to import it. I've learned the command to the Pronto numerous times, and every code it gets is different, but they all work. Unfortunately, the Universal Browser sees these commands as IR Data although they are learned commands I'm sure because of the four number prefix of 0100. Here is an example of one of the codes received by the Pronto:

0100 0014 0001 0001 0008 0044 0008 0019

Any ideas how I can get these codes (or at least one that works) into the MX-950? It won't learn from the Pronto either.

Thanks,

Dennis,

Rather than opening the CCF file in the Universal Browser, copy the hex code from Pronto Edit, click the "hex" button on the Universal Browser, paste the hex code into the window and click "drag" to drag the code to the button on the MX-950. The button should then show up as learned.

I'm surprised that dragging the command from the CCF in the Universal Browser didn't work.

Let me know how it goes.



Thank you,
Damon DG
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Direct hex code entry is not part of the current MX-950 editor, just the beta version.

The problem I see with the code listed above is that the preamble (first 4 digits) is not all zeros. Learned hex codes must start with 0000.

Have you tried both single and two-time learning with the MX-950?

Mike
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EDIT: ^ beat me to it.....

Hex import is not in the current mx950 editor (at least for now in my version, which should be up to date).

So if you open up that CCF file in the universal browser does it actually show the button where you learned in the command? I'm also suprised it's not letting you drag that onto a button on the mx950.

Oh, sorry about that! I was looking at the beta.

As previously mentioned, dragging the learned command from the CCF file should work too.



Thank you,
Damon DG
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To reiterate, only hex beginning with 0000 works. The others, like yours, don't. See the description of the various types here.

Mike,

That's my problem, although it is a learned code to the Pronto, that is the code that was learned. I tried changing the first four digits to 0000, but no luck. I'll check out the link you posted.

Thanks,

Mike, what do you mean by "single and two-time learning"? Please elaborate.

Two-time learning was designed to allow for learning toggle bit commands, which alternate between two commands each time a single button is pressed.



Thank you,
Damon DG
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Thanks. :) So it's only used for toggle commands, not discrete?

Well, it's used for learning any toggle bit commands. "Toggle bit" is a term used to describe the way the remote is sending IR. This has nothing to do with discreet or toggle commands. They are completely separate things.



Thank you,
Damon DG
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Because of your original post where you said:
"I've learned the command to the Pronto numerous times, and every code it gets is different, but they all work", you may be dealing with a toggle bit command. That's why i mentioned trying the 2-time learning.

BTW, there's a good explanation of toggle bit commands (aka parity bit) here.

That is typical behavior. The learned signal contains a bunch of approximate durations. Each time they are measured the values may be slightly different.


The 0100 means it is unmodulated. I expect you are correct that this is the reason the Universal browser won't accept it.

I don't know whether the MX-950 can transmit unmodulated signals at all. Even if it can, I don't know whether the Universal browser will understand any. Have you tried real customer support?


Sometimes it is possible to construct a modulated signal that will be acceptable to a device that expects unmodulated signals. But that one sample is so short it doesn't tell me enough about what aspects of signal structure matter to the device. So I may need to see the other commands (I assume it has more than one) to deduce the rules.
My first guess without seeing that is:

0000 0140 0001 0001 0001 0003 0001 0001

But I don't really know whether the Universal browser could import that, nor whether either a Pronto or an MX-950 could transmit it correctly, and if they did whether the device would consider it close enough to the original signal.


Even without a toggle bit, it is normal for multiple learns of the same command to look different to a non expert. The signal posted at the start of this thread is too simple to include a toggle bit.

Thanks for the responses. I tried a 2-time learn & it worked fine for the MX-950. Ultimately, what I was trying to do was create a file for an MX-850 that my brother owns. He sent me the blind motors & original remote after having no success with learning the commands to his MX-850. I happen to have an MX-700 also that I tried importing the 2-time learned command from the MX-950 to, but it didn't work. Finally, I was able to learn the command to the MX-700 by doing a real fast double tap on the original remote, and it seems to be working fine.