Vincent...

You crack me up... I'll never put in an Ademco panel again..

Im a DSC guy and they are simple and easy to use.. the only thing they don't have right now is a talking keypad...

but Admeco programming is so convoluted and stupid(try customizing lcd names)

Here's what Crestron says should be programmed on the panel and what we have programmed on the panel..

location:

05=1
14=1
173=0
178=1
179=111010
319=1
don't know about location 230..(maybe thats the missing link?)

And the 4100Sm is connected directly to the processor about 10ft 25pin printer cable..

its a big job with 72 speakers total, a 16x16 hdmi Crestron Matrix switcher..

anyhow... I'll go ahead and try out your suggestions

I really do appreciate everyones time and effort in helping..

primo