I say that I don't understand the thinking processes of the engineers who design them. Even though I now have an okay relationship with their national trainer, I still don't get it. The best metaphor I can think of is that Denon is like a High Maintenance woman whom you're in love with: it's gonna be a pain in the ass, the demands will be unreasonable, you're in love so you're gonna do what she asks, and, in the end, you'll think the BJ was worth it all. I'm just not in love with any product because at some level all products are whores.