I have NeoHacker up and running so that will not be a problem. I will give the pronto discrete codes a shot. I have been searching the net for two days trying to find a list of the codes for the Pioneer receiver and also the Pioneer DVD player I have. Are they trade secrets or what? Do I need to attend a Pioneer equipment repairer course or do I have to blow somebody to get the darn codes?... hehe... the latter sure as hell isn't gonna happen. Will get my butt up and do it manually before that ever happened unless they threw in a killer McKintosh setup and gave me my own satellite... J/K .... thanks for the tip...