John, as has been said many times on this site,"you are the man!!" I finally have one of the sets in front of me, and the original remote! the codes you e-mailed are indeed the correct codes, the manual that comes with the set lists a similar codeset with the associated commands, however it would appear that only the commands that are on the original remote (toggles) are operative, none of the listed discretes work. These were due for installation today, but in view of this haven't been. Thanks again John for your help.