Thanks heaps for your quick reply, as I said in another post the codes are for a Humax plasma that I am trying to find discrete input codes for,I cant get any help from the company and I have customers waiting on remotes to be programmed but I need the codes as the remote is set up in a way that you cant program any decent work arounds. T he data I posted was what I got from learning some codes and then using the JP1 program to decipher them.I have created a full set but have only tried the first 20 with no results as yet, the hex code when loaded into MX editor seems a lot shorter than other codes I have learned or generated with Make Hex and IR panels but it loades onto a button as learned so I will keep going through them to see if I can find anything. Is it common to have a lot of codes that dont do anything. Also I will mail you for that info and again thank you so much for your help. Cheers Mick