JJP: Ian was trolling to find/employ an installer to work in Eureka, California in a long established A/V business. From what I recall it sounded like a permanent position for the right individual. My guess is he thought there might be too many snags involved if his employer ended up hiring the Lord of the Rings. IMHO anyone who can punch that many holes and not hit the plumbing has at least some inherent mechanical skills. How long before that same colourful employee begins creating pentangles by drawing lines on the customer's floor from speaker to speaker ?? That's anyone's guess !!