This is such crap! RC gets PLENTY of visits, has a crapload of visitors, and is a GREAT SITE. Integrationpros.com has the potential to be a great site and be very beneficial to the custom installer if they had a large member base. He is not trying to steal members from this site, he is just letting them know that there is another place for them to talk shop at without clients reading what we say. As far as "Free advertising" goes...That's a bunch of crap too seeing as though he doesn't advertise on his site yet and has nothing to benefit from. If Daniel has a problem with the whole thing then that would make him out to be far different than I think he is.