Eric, I'm really not as emotionally distraught as EngrineerFriend about this issue. I'm really just funnin him at this point. I though the elevator comment was pretty funny. And Friend, this argument been going on a long time before this forum ever existed. Your not going to end it now but it's pretty entertaining that you think "you" can. Have a little tolerance and open your mind, you will find that the answer is found in the middle somewhere. BTW, I don't sell Monster Cable or Bose (though Bose is a possibility, some people really like it.)