I was just wondering what is everyones opinion on this. just by reading some of these threads you can tell who is in the industry and who isn't. maybe we should start a custom hobbyists forum, so that the rest of us can just really learn from each other and the hobbyists can learn from themselves. these are the people that buy from either a retail store or even a high end store but don't want to pay the price for installation. and in the long run after they realize they are over their heads , then they call us. opinions please. thanks