I have not scene to many that use wire ties TRIPPLE Q, Most that I have seen use staples or u nails. But once again u know more than we do. Thanks again TRIPLE Q for your words of knoledge and wisdom. Forgive me for the question Triple Q but I am new to the forum so I dont know what your back ground is. I am assuming that you are a sales person for a company, not a princaple (yes or no) if your answer is no than your input on this matter is not as important as we all thought. If the answer is yes then please refer to the previous replies.