the new rxv1500 and 2500 have rs232. their long awaited dvds1500 msrp $400 is supposed to come with rs232 , dvd audio and sacd. just got the email. they also released all ir and extended codes in cml for rti. mxf coming soon for urc remotes as well as codes for the prontos.

they seem to be doing some of the right things for the custom install market

qqq - might not be able to slap them with the "NO DISCRETES" stickers at cedia