Don't buy an A/V Producer 8. I had one, and took it back. The buttons were all mis-mapped on the programmed keys, and it would not learn on the keys that you REALLY NEEDED IT TO!

One big flaw--It would turn on the PIP on my Sony TV with the mapped keys from the pre-programmed code, but GUESS WHAT--it would not turn OFF the PIP!!

The people that designed the remote had their heads You-Know-where, and tech support was non-existent.

One person's opinion......