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Post 11 made on Tuesday May 23, 2017 at 18:34
Mac Burks (39)
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On May 23, 2017 at 18:12, Ernie Gilman said...
A terribly difficult thing to deal with is that this was the 22 year old son of Syrian refugees who came to England before he was born. This is not just someone who came to England and bombed it. A whole life was lived in England and this was the result.

The issue is the many circles of acceptance. Bill Mahr tried to explain to Batman but i don't think he got it.

Islam by and large is a typical peaceful religion. Like Christians most are the religion they are because their parents (parents parents etc) were. Very few wake up one day and decide what religion they are going to be.

Inside of the larger "all Muslims" group you have smaller groups. Palestinians for example. Most of these folks HATE Israel just like the Native Americans hated the settlers. They are on the front lines. Within the larger group of Palestinians you have folks in a small group who do the suicide bombings. Surrounding them are people who condone the bombings but wont do it themselves. Around those people there is a larger ring of people who will never publicly condone the bombings but secretly cheer when one occurs. Surrounding those people is a group who would never support violence of any kind but they frequently talk about the Israelis as if they are the devil. And finally you have a ring around those people who do not support and will not discuss violence ever. An angry energetic 20 year old in a good family might decide to join to cause against those evil people his parents have been talking about for 2 decades.

Same with the Italian mob. It might surprise some of you to know that all Italians aren't proud of Tony Soprano. There are a similar series of circles with people who actively participate in the gangster lifestyle at the center all the way to the outer edges where the people despise these murdering thieves.

If you want to make sure that your children don't grow up thinking its okay to marginalize a/any group of others...you have to make sure that you teach them that its not okay. You cant crack racist jokes and expect your kids to know that you aren't really racist. You cant listen to rap music about B1Tches & H03s in the house and expect your children to know that "its just a song". You cant pray for a travel ban or border wall and expect your children not to follow in your racist footsteps.

Thats about all you/they/anyone can do and it still might happen. You still might end up with a child who grows up to be a murderer. We live in a world where 20+ innocent civilians are killed every day in Syria and dozens of other regions in the world. If you step into the shoes that those people are wearing (or have been blown out of) you might understand why its so easy for young loser idiots to get angry and try to kill a bunch of strangers. We lost almost 3000 on 9/11 and we have been dropping bombs ever since.
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