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Post 26 made on Thursday February 13, 2014 at 23:04
highfigh
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On February 13, 2014 at 22:58, Hasbeen said...
This is what all of you "Non-Union" people do.  You extract one stupid story that you heard about a guy that you don't know, from a state that you've never been to, and circumstances that aren't clear to you.

That's not what the conversation is about.  The conversation is about Brendan saying that Unions are awful.

But to answer you specific question.  That employee is dumb. Here's why they're dumb.  Because if they bothered to care or knew anything, they'd know that they can opt out of supporting the union.  But instead, they simply cry about it to you.  Here's the kicker, they still get all of the benefits of being in the union, and they only have to pay a small paper work fee monthly.


Here's the rules:

Whether they know it or not, employees in a unionized workplace have a choice to make: they can join and support the labor union that represents their bargaining unit, or they can choose to refrain from joining and supporting the union.(2) In a diverse society such as ours, it is hardly surprising that individual employees' opinions frequently differ from those of the labor union officials charged with representing their interests, and that many employees will not want to join the union or support it.
Unfortunately, most employees do not know or clearly understand their choices and legal alternatives vis-a-vis the union. On the one hand, it is common knowledge that employees have the right to join and assist unions. Less well known, however, is employees' right to refrain from supporting the union. This "right to refrain" includes: a) the right to refrain from joining the union in the first place;(3) b) the right to resign from union membership at any time, and thereby escape any post-resignation internal union fines or discipline;(4) and c) the right to stop paying full union dues and instead pay only a reduced "financial core fee" which excludes the union's political and non-collective bargaining expenditures.(5) Unfortunately, many employees are misled into believing, either tacitly or through outright misrepresentations, that they are required as a condition of employment to join the union and pay full dues as a condition of employment.(6)

A state I haven't been to? You don't even know which state I'm referring to, or who is being forced to pay dues. Well done! Nice job of leaping to an empty conclusion.

BTW- this was in Kenosha, WI and it's the teacher's union that is doing this. I live in Wisconsin.

I keep hearing that teachers have to pay for supplies out of their own pocket- why doesn't the teacher's union put a provision into the contract to cover these, for the kids whose parents can't afford the cost? I know many teachers, too- it's a hard job, but I have a hard time being too sympathetic about their pay.

Last edited by highfigh on February 13, 2014 23:12.
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