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HELP: URC MX-5000 - does it support IP commands? Hexidecimal?
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Post 1 made on Friday December 30, 2011 at 13:23
ltowne1
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Issue: we need to use hexidecimal over lan to control JVC D-ILA RS45U projector at least when in 3-d mode, I have URC MX-5000 remote that I hope can do it.

Problem to solve:
I have hired a professional installer friend to help and we have most of my theater up and running.  I have all AV equipment in the back of the room, not line of site, but have a Russound IR repeater that works great.  All is well until I go to 3-D, then my repeater goes nuts and some remotes do not work, including the projector. Moving the 3-D emmitter to face people or screen still gets enough bounce to hose up the IR eye. This SHOULD in my opinion be ok since the two units not working; the JVC projector, and some Denon 4311CI Receiver functions, are lan connected, have IP's I can find in the menu system, and are designed for this type of control.  The JVC uses hexidecimal codes and supplies them in the manual and online.

SO - my installer who has an older URC and has a URC programming license (he has not done a MX-5000 yet) and is to do the programming tells me that URC cannot send a hexidecimal or IP command to my equipment without another purchase per one of his technical resources at his distributor. 

I WILL be replacing the MX-5000 with a unit that can if this is the case.  I find it utterly ridiculous that a $19 iPhone app can control the projector over the lan but my very expensive MX-5000 cannot.

If you have a better recommendation for a remote in my set-up please advise.

Thanks so much for any advice or solutions!

LT
Post 2 made on Friday December 30, 2011 at 23:03
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1- You need a MRX-1 you only have half of a system. Using an MX-5000 with an I.R. repeater is silly and is also the reason nothing works in 3D. The IR blaster that controls the 3d glasses in 3D is flooding the repeater system. That is why you use RF.

2- A $19 Iphone app does not control anything without the $500 iphone
OP | Post 3 made on Sunday January 1, 2012 at 11:44
ltowne1
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 thanks AV Greg, so it seems I need one more device to have a great system.  Well, the iPhone is not $500 but the iPad 2 is :)  turns out the ough the online apps get you started for a low price, then upsell many different ways so not quite that cheap

Would love to have someones opinion on the app at roomieremote dot com 

Q: Rough price on MRX-1? (gain find out next week, but in case you are posting today)

I guess many thousand in, what is a few $'s more on one more piece of hardware?


Post 4 made on Sunday January 1, 2012 at 16:33
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On December 30, 2011 at 13:23, ltowne1 said...
Issue: we need to use hexidecimal over lan to control JVC D-ILA RS45U projector at least when in 3-d mode, I have URC MX-5000 remote that I hope can do it.

Problem to solve:
I have hired a professional installer friend to help and we have most of my theater up and running.  I have all AV equipment in the back of the room, not line of site, but have a Russound IR repeater that works great.  All is well until I go to 3-D, then my repeater goes nuts and some remotes do not work, including the projector. Moving the 3-D emmitter to face people or screen still gets enough bounce to hose up the IR eye. This SHOULD in my opinion be ok since the two units not working; the JVC projector, and some Denon 4311CI Receiver functions, are lan connected, have IP's I can find in the menu system, and are designed for this type of control.  The JVC uses hexidecimal codes and supplies them in the manual and online.

SO - my installer who has an older URC and has a URC programming license (he has not done a MX-5000 yet) and is to do the programming tells me that URC cannot send a hexidecimal or IP command to my equipment without another purchase per one of his technical resources at his distributor. 

I WILL be replacing the MX-5000 with a unit that can if this is the case.  I find it utterly ridiculous that a $19 iPhone app can control the projector over the lan but my very expensive MX-5000 cannot.

If you have a better recommendation for a remote in my set-up please advise.

Thanks so much for any advice or solutions!

LT

LT-

In all fairness, URC can't write a module for every device on the market as fast as JVC and write an ipad app for their line of IP enabled projectors...
OP | Post 5 made on Monday January 2, 2012 at 13:31
ltowne1
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yeah, true URC will take time, just a bummer to buy a whole new gadget for one device but may make a cleaner set-up.  True, JVC should have an iApp.  Rommie Remote created one for IP control on my iPhone 6 hours after I sent them an email requesting it yesterday on NY Day, pretty responsive when you are the little guy I guess.  All the codes are published and online on JVC's site.  the Roomie is of course not a URC MX-5000 but I have a device immediately while I wait for a pro to program my URC, that is a pain, I am pretty technical, worked in IT for 19 years, but not allowed to program my own remote.
OP | Post 6 made on Saturday January 14, 2012 at 16:47
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well, as follow up, Roomie (at Rovi booth at CES this week), total price $29.98, has all my devices working over IP, I create my own macros, they added my projector after I sent them the commands in like 4 hours on New Years day, and it works on every iOS device in my house.  I think big $$ remotes are going away.  Who does not have a handheld that works on their lan?  As more and more equipment isIP connected you will have many more options to control them.  The only piece I have that is not is the screen, and it can take a line out signal from the projector.  I get two way from my DirecTV, Denon, DVD, JVC Projector, and alas, my URC is still at the programmer, but probably has a couple of pics (which any downloadable can do), and the macros will be obsolete by the time I get them.  Top $ remotes are a dumb and soon to be obsolete busibness model, clearly for wealthy non-technical people who don't like to tinker.  Sure the iPads and iPhones were not free, but, for this application they were becasue I owned them...
Post 7 made on Saturday March 10, 2012 at 12:54
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I'm perplexed by this thread.  No hex for the MX-5000?  Need to buy a MRX-1?

IP commands support Ascii, Hex, and Decimal in TCP & UDP.  I haven't needed to use hex, but it is there.

Why would you need a MRX-1?  The MX-5000 remote is IP capable and doesn't need any base station for IP control.

I'm using a MX-5000 along with a MSC-400.  I use the MSC-400 for IR & RS232 duties, but all the IP control is direct MX-5000 to WAP to device.

Sorry for bringing up a somewhat old thread, but I was wondering what I missed.
OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday March 14, 2012 at 13:14
ltowne1
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we where told we needed an MRX-1, not the case, mostly, IP is a little lacking in some areas though, it won't work with a JVC projector due to the handshake, actually we can get it to work from the pc with the MX tethered, but when disconnected it fails.  I think many people just do not use or understand IP yet.  We took all the networking classes online URC offers and it helped somewhat, but it still seems to need some work to be ready for primetime on IP.  Another one is some Sony DVD players, due to device registration we cn't get it to work.  We are controling both with Roomie over IP so it can be done.


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