I just got my av3000, and it solved a big problem for me right away - almost. Unfortunately the "almost" is really bugging to me.

I have a Pioneer 5030HD, it requires me to repeatedly hit the input button to cycle through its inputs (TVtuner -> Input1 -> ... Input4). I programmed the AV3000 for the pioneer preset (8037) and it gave me label keys that take me directly to every input 1-4 directly (great!), but the TVtuner label button, for some reason, does not take me back to the TVtuner - in fact it doesn't do anything. To get back to the TVtuner I have to do the old input menu shuffle starting from whichever input I am currently using.

I would like to make the TVtuner label key "learn" the correct action, but since my pioneer remote doesn't emit it directly, I am stuck. Is there any way to get around it? I don't see how a macro will work, since my starting point could be anywhere from input 1 to input 4.

thanks for any help.

--vic

Did you try the other two codes for Pioneer TV-8018 or 8019? If they don't work, you may have to use discrete codes, which require some explanation which I will give you if you need it.

Thanks for the quick response.

I tried the other pio presets, in the sense that after setting them I tried turning the tv on and off. When that failed I didn't try them anymore. Should I have kept trying?

I'm afraid I am a newbie and don't understand descrete codes, but would love to learn if you can spare the explanation.

thanks again
--vic

Go to this thread and then get back to me if you have any questions (which you will). There's some extra stuff in it, but you can never learn too much about programming the AV3000.
[Link: remotecentral.com]

Ok, I read the thread and you are right I have questions. But first let me test my understanding:

I need to get an OFA from radio shack. I am assuming this remote is unique because it lets me enter discrete codes (that I get from the website www.hifi-remote.com). If I find one of these codes that does what I want, I then use it to teach my AV3000 the code. Correct?


I went to www.hifi-remote.com and clicked on
"set-up codes">TV>Pioneer

I found two codes: 0038, 0166

Then I went to "advanced code list">TV

I did not find 0038 as one of the list codes (is that a problem???), but I did find 0166. When I look at that file it shows a bunch of 3-digit codes with corresponding functions. Its hard to tell for sure, but it didn't look like any of the fuctions are what I am looking for.

Am I on the right track? Should I just buy the OFA and try them out anyway? Since 0038 wasn't there, is it likely it won't work?

thanks for your time

--vic

You got it right the first time. This is the best response I ever got from someone I was trying to explain discrete codes to. Since 0038 isn’t there, just use the 0166 listing. OFA stands for OneForAll remotes, which are mostly sold at Wal-Mart, and a good model to get is the 8810/8811. Radio Shack sells their own brand. If you can find a 15-2104, they are selling for about $10, but they are probably all gone by now, so buy a 15-2103. I used to recommend the OFA remotes, but I don’t know about the new ones and people are reporting good results with the Radio Shack remotes. These two brands are the only ones that will accept discrete codes.
When you get the remote, you must first load the device code for your Pioneer TV to the TV button on the remote. Then, you press the Set (or whatever they are calling it) button, and then the 3 digit code. When you press the third digit, it will send the command to the AV3000. You can also just press the Set button and the codes and send them to the TV to test out which ones work. There were 2 codes in the 0166 list that said TV: 246 and 052. Try these, because TV usually means it will switch discretely to the TV mode. If not, you can safely try any others that look appropriate. You will probably find some other discrete codes that will be of use to you. You can also check your other equipment for discrete codes which may make things easier to control with your AV3000.

Got it. Thanks again.

On your pioneer TV does the chan up trick work (to take you from any input to the tv tuner)?

CB1

It does (I forgot about that), hitting channel up (or down) takes you back to the TV. I could "learn" this button, instead of using descrete codes. However I found out yesterday that the input 4 label button does not work either. I don't usually have an input 4, but my nephew plugged in his playstation yesterday and there it was (or wasn't). Thanks for the tip.

You could always take your 3000 to a retailer that sells Pioneer TV's and learn the discrete codes from the remote. I know the new Pioneer Eliete remotes have the direct inputs on them.

CB1

Thanks for the tip. Is this a better approach than getting the radio shack remote and trying discrete codes? I live by San Jose, I think Laserland sells elite's but I don't know if they would let me use their remote since I have never bought anything from them. If I am patient, the code apprach will eventually work won't it?

--vic

For a minimal investment in the Radio Shack remote, you will be able to access discrete codes for all of your equipment, but if you go to the dealer to copy one or two codes, that is all you are ever going to have. Of course, I am still not sure if the TV codes I gave you above will work, but thanks to cb1's reminder of the channel trick (oh I forgot about that) you can use that in your macro if the others don't work. But I am prejudiced because I am partial to discrete codes so take that into consideration when you make your decision.

I agree, this sounds like the most versatile (and fun) thing to try. However, I got a little worried when I read that it can be dangerous to send random codes to your TV because it can cause it to go into a mode that only a factory tech can get you out of. In your expierence is this a real danger?

--vic

There is no danger if you use the codes in the Advanced Code listings. Several years ago, I “discovered” discrete codes while playing with my new OFA 8800 remote. I didn’t know anything about the OFA site or listings, so I entered each code from 000-256 (after 256 they just repeat themselves), and wrote down each code and what it did. Luckily, it didn’t bother my Sony TV, or any of the other equipment I tried it on, but I have heard some brands will cause problems if certain codes are entered. The best thing is to stick with the codes in the listings. There has been enough research done by the OFA site on Advanced Codes, and the listings have been updated periodically, so there would not be much of an advantage to searching for codes and possibly harming your components.

"When you get the remote, you must first load the device code for your Pioneer TV to the TV button on the remote. "

Since the RS-15-2103 doesn't have a device code for the Samsung TS160 HD receiver, does this mean I cannot use a advanced codes for discrete on /off?