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Sony rm-vl710, repetition of learned commands?
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Post 1 made on Sunday November 6, 2005 at 14:35
elcanario
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I programmed functions by learning from the original remote (Dreambox 7000s Sat receiver) for channel up/down. When I press the buttons with the learned functions, the command is sent only once, while in these specific functions I would like to send them repeatedly untill I release the button (much like normal a volume up buton would function that keeps increasing the volume as long as you press the button). Would anyone have an idea on how to achieve this in the Sony RM-VL710?

Thanks
Post 2 made on Sunday November 6, 2005 at 21:30
Ron Aronson
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Holding the button down on the original remote until the 710 signals the command has been learned will usually solve this problem.

Does the original remote repeat the command that you are trying to make the 710 repeat? If it doesn't, you won't be able to get the 710 to do it either.
OP | Post 3 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 10:37
elcanario
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Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately this did not work: when I follow the way you describe the new learned button takes the original command some 4-6 times, instead of repeating the one command.
This is not useful, as from then on the button always sends the 4-6 commands in a row.

The remote is capable of repetition of commands when you install an existing device from the database of codes, for example the volume up in a TV pre-installed code will always be repeating when you puch and hold the button.

Any further ideas?

PS Strangely enough in one try indeed the commands were repeated, but each time 6 commands in a row, which again is not useful as I also need the possibility to send one command, for instance when I'm in a menu).
Post 4 made on Tuesday November 8, 2005 at 03:57
Daniel Tonks
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When learning codes, if you hold the button down until the remote finishes capturing it will learn a repeating code. If this is not working, then perhaps there is something strange with the original code format.

You can also try some of these learning tips: [Link: remotecentral.com]
OP | Post 5 made on Saturday November 19, 2005 at 09:49
elcanario
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On November 8, 2005 at 03:57, Daniel Tonks said...
When learning codes, if you hold the button down
until the remote finishes capturing it will learn
a repeating code. If this is not working, then
perhaps there is something strange with the original
code format.

You can also try some of these learning tips:
[Link: remotecentral.com]

I tried everything I think. It simply does not work. Thanks for the replies anyway.
Post 6 made on Sunday November 20, 2005 at 03:26
Daniel Tonks
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It must be a code format that the VL710 simply doesn't like...
Post 7 made on Monday November 28, 2005 at 19:50
SCG
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I have the exact same problem with a Moxi/Motorola DVR and the Sony RM-AV3000. They (the boxes) use an infrared wireless technology called eXtensible Multimedia Protocol (XMP), formerly called Two-Way Infrared Protocol (TWIRP), which is also used by Dreambox and Escient devices. This technology uses multiple infrared pulses with 16 burst pairs with 16 different burst combinations.

The Sony remotes can either send, only one command at a time, or multiple commands with a single push of the button. In either case, it makes the remote interface very slow or impossible to use. Some users have reported better results by briefly pressing the buttons or varying the amount of "press time" during the “learning process”. But this is very time consuming and completely a "trial and error" process at best, and I never got all keys to work satisfactory.

The Harmony 880, 688, 676, and URC-300, MX-700, URC-9910 all have been reported to support the XMP protocol. But this means incurring the expense of new remotes, and for me (with three AV 3000) it has never been an option.

Sorry I don't have better news for you but I wanted to let you know that you are not alone, and also to expand on DT's post of "It must be a code format that the VL710 simply doesn't like" as very few remotes do like it...Maybe the RM-AV4000 will change all that, but its of no help here and now.

If anyone has found a solution or an useable work-around for XMP and Sony remotes, would love to hear from yea.

Last edited by SCG on November 29, 2005 11:32.
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