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Post 1 made on Thursday October 2, 2003 at 17:37
Freewill
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I just got a Sony RM-AV3000 to control, inter alia, a Toshiba 50" HD RPTV & a Toshiba DST 3000 satellite receiver. The DST, which provides signal to a standard def TV as well as to the Toshiba, is not capable of transmitting a standard & an HD signal simultaneously, so it is necessary to toggle between the 2 types of signal by means of pressing a shift key (called "ACTION," by Toshiba), and then the"INPUT" key on the original remote. I created a macro of these 2 operations to System Control Button 2 on the AV 3000. It works when I toggle Hi-Def to Standard Def, but nada in reverse. Any thoughts? Another way to accomplish this is through the setup menu of the DST. I haven't bothered to learn the DST menu commands to the AV3000's hard Menu Button which surprisingly worked in TV mode for the Toshiba RP, right out of the box. Which brings me to my next question, which will dispel any doubt about how clueless I am about all this: if I learn my DST's menu commands to the hard menu button on the AV3000, could that overwrite the TV menu commands? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Bob F
Post 2 made on Thursday October 2, 2003 at 17:55
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About the Action and Input. Does the Action key send a signal, or does it just tell the remote to get ready for the shift key? If it doesn’t send a signal, you could press the action key, and then send the signal for the Input key to the 3000. Have you tried that? I have no idea how your Toshiba works so I am just guessing at this, but it is worth a try. This way you will have discrete keys on the 3000 without having to press Action first each time. I have no idea why it won’t toggle, but it may have something to do with the Action command. On your Toshiba remote, It appears that you press Action and then Input, and it toggles each time. If it does it there, it should do it on the 3000.

When you learn any command to any preprogrammed button, it ovewrites the original command, and the learned command takes over, so what you say is correct.

You won't have any problem with the System 2 key, but if you want to use the other two keys, be sure and read this thread [Link: remotecentral.com]

This message was edited by Ron Aronson on 10/02/03 18:08.
Post 3 made on Thursday October 2, 2003 at 21:42
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Action just gets the remote ready, mits,hughes,are the same way.
why have a nice system if you cant operate it, program the remote the right way the FIRST time!
OP | Post 4 made on Friday October 3, 2003 at 00:14
Freewill
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Thanks for the help, guys. Ron, cb1 is absolutely right about the action key not sending a signal. I hadn't thought about it before, but when I read your post I did the toggle with the 2 keys with 1 new difference: I aimed the (original) remote away from the DST when pressing the action key. It worked perfectly. This would not have proved anything had I used the AV3000; it's so powerful it goes backward & around corners; definitely not so the original remote! Next thing I did on the AV3000 was to scrap the macro & assign the shift function (action) to System Control 2 (thanks for the caveat about # 1 & 3, Ron) & the input function to the Input LCD in STB mode. Same difference: if you "prepare" the input button by pressing Sys Ctr 2 first, pressing the input button will then work in switching the sat receiver's output from Hi-Def to Standard, but a subsequent pressing of the input key, whether preceded by pressing Sys Ctr 2 or not, will not reverse the process. So far, I must use the original remote for this. Furthermore, and this seems curious, once the input LCD is "prepared" by the Sys Ctr 2 button, it stays prepared, even after other functions are performed in the same mode!
Post 5 made on Friday October 3, 2003 at 07:21
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The Action command on the 3000 is not necessary. All the Action command does is tell the Toshiba remote that you want to change the HD signal instead of the TV input; hence the term "Shift". It has nothing to do with the 3000. Once you learn the Input code on the 3000 (after pressing Action, then Input on the Toshiba remote), it will work without having to press the Action button first. If it doesn't, then the Toshiba remote must be sending a signal, which is contrary to what cb1 and I believe is happening. I still can't understand why the Input button doesn't reverse the process on the 3000 if it does it on the Toshiba remote. Have you held the button on the original remote down until the 3000 beeps, thereby insuring a complete signal is learned?
OP | Post 6 made on Friday October 3, 2003 at 12:28
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Ron, you wrote," I still can't understand why the Input button doesn't reverse the process on the 3000 if it does it on the Toshiba remote. Have you held the button on the original remote down until the 3000 beeps, thereby insuring a complete signal is learned?" I don't know, but I'll do it over to be sure. I didn't know there could be partial learning. By the way, Ron, since I had already given up last night on ever getting this procedure to work via this shortcut, I decided to ignore your advice about the dedicated menu button on the 3000 & have it learn the menu commands of the DST, hoping somehow, that it would not overwrite the menu commands of the TV, which are much more useful day in & day out. Well, as soon as I learned the menu button of the original DST remote to that hard menu button on the 3000, I was able to access all the myriad functions, including sub-menus, of the DST, with the 3000. And, guess whatÑall the TV menu commands were retained. So, I can, after all, retire my original remote. The 3000 does everything it can do, as well as everything the remotes of my TV, my Sony 9000ES DVD/SACD player, & my Sony Hi-8 deck can do, &, of course, it does it more elegantlyÑI do wish, though, that I still had that shortcut that allowed me to change resolution without navigating through the set-up menu of the DST. Thanks, again for all the help.


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