Hi

Thanks to the files at remote Central, and the great help that
I have read in these forums I'm finally getting the hang of my
prontopro 980.

Problems I have, and looking for help are.

The Pioneer PDP 506XDE refuses to change inputs, if I have
been watching a DVD on Input 4, then turn the system off, go back
and switch it on to watch TV ( on input 3 ) everything works, except
for changing to Input 3, it stays on 4.
After reading the forums I have tried changing the time the IR code
takes, and also adding delays, with no success, has anyone any idea
what length of time the IR code needs on a pioneer, and also if/what
delays need to be there ?

Also, another problem :-( Because the Pioneer TV only has one
button for switching it on and off, if i go from watching DVD to
watch TV while its all on, it turns the TV off, and visa versa.
I'm sure this is a simple one, but at the moment I fail to see it.

Again as above MANY MANY thanks to all that help in this forum,
I do not post a lot, but I have read many a post that has helped
me start to suss this great remote out.

Thanks

Barny,

Pioneer has a lot of codesets on their website:

[Link: pioneerelectronics.com]

Some are in Pronto .ccf files which you can import into the Pronto NG editor. I would suggest trying some of the files here and copy and paste the inputs and discrete power on & off commands you will find in some Pioneer models, into your config and see if they work.

It is likely that Pioneer (like most manufacturer's) use many of the same codes for most of their models.

Good luck - Dave

Pioneer displays have great discretes, look beautiful and easy to control. I have done at least 100 systems with a Pioneer display and they all work seamlessly.

Follow Dave's lead and post questions as you go, there will be light at the end of the tunnel...

Thanks for that, I could not find those codes for the want of trying.

At least i now have the link as above to try some, they seem to be
all USA pioneer numbers, why do they always have different numbers
for different parts of the world :(

Even then it seems the 506XDE is not covered, will download a few and
try.

Thanks again, will let you know how I do :-)

Barny

I know this might seem silly, can I just ask someone, when you add
a time limit on the IR code it puts it in after the code you are trying
to change the lentgh of time for, is this right, should it not go before
the code you want to let know how long to be on for, or is all this
just split second stuff, and does not matter.

I have gone all the way up to 1.5 secs now and still no luck, after
downloading one of the codes from pioneer it seems they set theres
to 1.2 secs, tried that and notthing. Does anyone know if i need
delays as well before the Input switch, this TV does seem to take
an alful long time to actually turn on. Even though I have TV on at
beginning of macro and the change input at the end, maybe it needs
a lot longer to turn on before it can change input, but does anyone
know how long ?

thanks again

Not totally sure about the 980, but with the 7000 you had to use the lastest firmware or you had problems with some Pioneer functions. Especially when used in macros.

You usually need about 4 or 5 seconds between power and an input change. Some sets need much more. When using IR only I have an on button and then a seperate input button to buy some time when the set is first turned on.

Thanks to ddarche and the pioneer codes he pointed me to I now have proper
on and off, hence that problem has gone.
Thanks roddymcg, but the firmware is bang up to date, even have latest version
of ProntoprEdit NG :-(

Still have the Input problem :-( Have tried delay change form .05 to 8 seconds, have also tried Ir code length, mind u if it works normally at 1.2 secs, then I cannot see
why the Ir code length should be any different in a macro.

Does anyone know how long a 50 inch pioneer plasma needs to be on before
you can switch input ????
Trying it with the original remote, it seems to be roughly 5 seconds, so why
will this not work when in a macro.

if anyone has any ideas please please help, its driving me crazy, this seems
to be my last major problem, I can then start to actually make it look nice ;-)

Thanks

Sorry to keep posting, but I keep having idea's ;-)

roddymcg you said
'When using IR only I have an on button and then a seperate input button to buy some time when the set is first turned on. '

So is ir slower, how /what can i do to improve it.

Thanks

When using IR only one has to consider that the remote is being pointed in the general direction of the components or the IR receiver. Two button presses helps me out with this.

When using an RF module the need to point the remote in any direction is now not a factor. Client can press a button and just wait for things to happen.

Try playing with the delay from power in on to the input, maybe 8 seconds is not enough with the newer displays. Some LG units take upwards of 10 seconds and others even more.

Thanks roddymcg

Will carry on trying :-)

I have the same screen. No problems with selecting inputs on their own (i.e buttons are okay), but I did have to change the delay between turning on and changing inputs to a long time - as I recall even 10s wasn't enough all the time. I think it was a little variable when testing. Like it was okay if you were turning TV off, on, off, on, but when you came in cold it was different.

Hope that helps.

Lee

Thanks for that leemcg, was beginning to think my screen was faulty. It
does take an awful long time to warm up. 10 secs plus is crazy, have
sussed it now by placing a input 3 switch on the DVD screen, not ideal
but what can you do.

thanks for the response :-)

By the way, have you got your screen insured as yet, I have 8 months
left on the years guarantee, and was looking into extending it, but a
4 year deal is nearly £500, I have a lot of philips stuff and they do there
own extended warranty, was wondering if pioneer did the same.

thanks again

Barny

It is a long time I suppose, but I've never really noticed it. This is because I have the TV on a Future Automation motorised bracket, which takes about the same time to get into position - it's a bit like waiting for the curtains to open at the cinema :-)

I generally don't ever buy extended warranties. Sure there's a risk that the TV goes bad and I have to pay for it to be fixed, but I think I'd still be up on the all of the other warranties I've failed to buy over the years.

Regards

Lee

Due to the complexity and advanced design of todays modern TVs, a 10 second turn-on time is not bad. Mine, not a plasma, takes around 25 plus seconds to turn-on. Meanwhile, all my macros are busy getting everything set up where when I sit down my favorite HiDef station welcomes me. :-)

I would recommend purchasing an extended warranty to cover your expensive piece of equipment. Whether the warranty comes from the store or manufacturer, it's nice knowing that you are covered if something goes wrong. I bought a 5-year extended warranty from the store. When the ballast went a 1 1/2 year in, the piece of paper had paid for itself and I still have 3 1/2 years left of coverage. :-)

Good luck.

Does Pioneer offer there own warranty on plasmas ?