To all you passionate Pronto owners...

This is my final "I'm researching to buy" question. As I've discussed in another post, I'm ready to buy my first hi-tech remote. I've narrowed the search, like most other people, to either a Pronto (7000/7500) or a Nevo SL.

OK- the question... Discarding the issues about ease of programming and ergonomics (let's assume that I love to program and that the button placement and shape of the Pronto doesn't mean diddly to me), what can you say about the Pronto that would cause me to choose it over the Nevo? In other words, why would you recommend the functionality and capabilities of the Pronto over the Nevo?

I've been lurking in this forum for a couple days now in preparation, so I've already read a lot of people's thoughts. But I haven't heard any passionate responses to the issue when the question is simply asked point blank.

And to be fair to all of you, I'm posting this exact same question in the Nevo forum to hear what they have to say about their remote.

I do appreciate any comments! Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think I'd lay out $700+ for a freakin remote control. But here I am. And I want to make sure I make the best for my money.

Thanks, All!
Barry Miller

Barry,

Unless you have over 800 DVDs or CDs and want to do jacket pictures, the 7000 will work just fine for you. Otherwise, get the 7500 cause it has 16MB more RAM and you'll need it. Additionally, the 7500 hard buttons have a bit more tactile feel to them and they appear to be painted in a scheme that's a bit brighter.

Lyndel,

Thanks for the reply, but the focus of my question is for Pronto fans to share why they're passionate about their Pronto (7000 or 7500) to the extent that it's a better remote than the Nevo SL.

This is a Pronto vs Nevo question. NOT 7000 vs 7500. I apologize for not wording my original question more directly.

Barry

Greetings,

Barry, I have been a Pronto owner for 6 years. I owned the TSU2000, 3000, and now the 7000. These are simply the best remoe controls I have used. I am not sure what exactly you would like us to say.

Every remote control has it's strong points. At the end of the day you will have to decide which remote has the features, ergonomics, looks and price that appeal to you most. Trying to get us to tell why we are passionate about our remotes to help you make a buying decision is moot. I think that in this price range every buyer has to look to his own interests and go with that.

I think the fact that we all own the Pronto pretty much sums it up for us even though it may be for various reasons.

Whether you go with the Nevo or the Pronto I am sure either will make you happy. Take the knowledge you have gained and pull the trigger.

Best of luck.

If you are looking for passionate responses check out my reply here. It does not get much more passionate than that. Unfortunately I don't know much about the Nevo. Sorry. I can tell you this much though. There is no way I'm missing out. If you would like to hear more of my ramblings I'd suggest checking out two replies in the thread titled, "DVD Jacket Displayed" where I talk about my TSU7000 configuration file. I just updated both of these replies today in fact. Start with this one, then move on down to the next reply. Once you finish reading those posts it should be clear to you why I long for no other remote. :-) In any event, good luck in finding a remote that's right for you. There is nothing better than having the perfect remote. After all, a great remote is often key in making all that A/V gear ones purchased fun and easy to use. It certainly has been for me.

Barry Miller -

I too I'm a owner of a Pronto, TSU7000. Unfortunately, I can't do a comparison as I know next to nothing about the Nevo. However, I can tell you that one of the strongest attributes the TSU7000 has to offer is it's ability to allow for customization. You can create screens, buttons, text, learn IR codes from other manufacturer remotes, and program macros through it's software to your personal liking. I just love it's flexibility.

This remote is the center piece of my Home Theater. It ties together 10 different pieces of equipment and allows me to control them effortlessly, all within the palm of my hand (depanding on the size of the hand, of course :-p). It can't get any better than that! :-).

Good luck on your decision.

ORIGINAL POSTER HERE.

All,

Thank you for your responses! One thing I've discovered since I posted my original question is it'd be a good idea to d/l and read the manuals for both remotes. That should help give me an sense of what each remote is capable of.

Ralph P…. I know where you're coming from wrt your overall response. I guess I was looking for comments from owners who have knowledge of both the Pronto and the Nevo, to offer something like, "I chose (or am sticking with) the Pronto over the Nevo because the Pronto can do this and that and the Nevo can't".

I expected all the Nevo fans (and even the Pronto ones) to chime in with the popular opinions that the Pronto's buttons are awful compared to the Nevos and it's programming is tedious and archaic compared to the Nevo's user-friendly programming. As all this has been covered thoroughly in other threads, I tried to keep it out of the discussion and focus strictly on capabilities between the two remotes.

And also in most cases I would agree that since someone is a Pronto owner, that should be explanation enough as to why they own one. But the way I see it, it's the Pronto owners that may use it but still are NOT happy with it that I also want to hear from. Perhaps they wished they had gone with a Nevo instead? I'd like to hear why.

To everyone... As such, I was hoping to hear from both sides of the camp. That's the best way to solicit a true perspective. And I asked for the passionate to respond because they're most likely to give a useful answer and because I've been leaning towards the Pronto as it's the first remote that raised my awareness of hi-tech remotes when I started my research.

Lowpro's reply was the kind of passionate response I think this discussion is targeted for. I hoped to solicit his type of response from both the Pronto and Nevo sides and let the facts presented about capabilities duke it out.

And finally, though it may seem like I ask all these questions and solicit generous members such as yourselves to spend your time making life easier for me… I am grateful. But also, my search through the past 6 months of threads hasn't turned-up this particular topic in a focused format. This is the main reason I hoped to generate this discussion… so the hundreds of other potential shoppers out there like me can have an invaluable resource to refer to before laying down $700 or $800 for a capability that most people on this planet wouldn't consider paying more than $25 for.

Thank you all agian, for your great input!

Barry Miller

Again, a mostly Prontoid (i.e. Marantz too) user and programmer here, but I can think of two questions that have to be answered:

Are the problems that seem to have plagued the Nevo, making it seem worthless (in the threads I have seen), totally conquered?

Does the Nevo have more hard buttons than the Prontoids? My clients fall into two categories: those who LOVE remotes with hard buttons for functions, and those who have touchscreen remotes with hardly any buttons and struggle with them because they don't realize how much easier it is to use a remote with buttons. You can learn how to operate many hard buttons on a remote by touch, but you have to look at a touchscreen EVERY time you want to use a button on the screen.

No, I don't have any clients who just say they LOVE their Prontoids; they like them and their functionality, and I have not asked them if they would prefer a remote with more buttons. But I have done a couple of RTI T2+s for some people who are not at all technically inclined, and they like the buttons and accept, without enthusiasm, the touchscreen portion of the remote.