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NEC HT-1000 problem with TSU-7000
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Post 1 made on Monday February 20, 2006 at 18:40
Michael Clarke
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I have a NEC HT-1000 projector working fine on a TSU-6000 for the past 3 years.

Got a TSU-7000 and did a new pcf. Everything works great except for the NEC HT-1000 projector. ( On Off discretes)

When I copy the pronto hex for the NEC ON & OFF buttons from the 6000 to the 7000 the code changes.

6000 code -ON : 0000 006d 0022 0002 015b 00ae 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 069c 015b 0057 0016 0ea9

After it is pasted into the 7000 ir window and saved it looks like this:

900A 006D 0000 0001 0E09 08F7

The code in the 7000 actually works but no longer as a discrete ( works as a toggle)

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Ever notice when you are driving that everybody going slower than you is an idiot and everyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Post 2 made on Monday February 20, 2006 at 20:52
HeatherSSS
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I can asume your original remote does not have discrete codes on it?
If so why not teach the codes directly again.

Do you still have the old TSU6000.
Can you use that to teach the new 7000 directly?
Post 3 made on Monday February 20, 2006 at 21:13
Lyndel McGee
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Paste this code and it will hopefully work just fine as this code will not be shortened by the NG editor.

0000 006d 0022 0004 015b 00ae 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 069c 015b 0057 0016 0ea9 015b 0057 0016 0ea9
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OP | Post 4 made on Monday February 20, 2006 at 21:21
Michael Clarke
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Can you post an off code as well
Ever notice when you are driving that everybody going slower than you is an idiot and everyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Post 5 made on Tuesday February 21, 2006 at 07:27
randman
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One suggestion that might help on the off command. The NEC HT1000 has a setting (somewhere in the setup menu) where you can tell it to prompt you if you want a dialog box confirmation to turn off the projector. If you set this, then the off command doesn't have to be a long duration, and it's a matter of hitting off and then ok.
OP | Post 6 made on Tuesday February 21, 2006 at 07:28
Michael Clarke
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Lyndel,

0000 006D 0022 0004 0155 00AE 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0695 0155 0057 0016 0EAB 0155 0057 0016 0EAB

When I save the code you supplied it is slightly altered to above.

Any suggestions?

I am going to try it today.
Ever notice when you are driving that everybody going slower than you is an idiot and everyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Post 7 made on Tuesday February 21, 2006 at 08:00
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Mike sent the same question to me by email. I prefer answering IR questions in forums, rather than by email. I usually spot any thread, like this, on the sort of topic where I often help. If you think I ignored such a thread, feel free to email a URL to call the thread to my attention, but keep the question in the forum.

In this case, I don't think I know enough about the HT1000 or the TSU-7000 to help any more than Lyndel and randman already are. But I have a few questions about the duration issue:

Was the original code a discrete On when used as a simple IR signal on the TSU6000? Or did you need to extend its duration on the TSU6000 to make it act as a discrete?

What method did you use for extending the duration of On and/or Off on the TSU6000? Whichever one it was, it WON'T work or the TSU-7000. I think some new versions of Pronto NG firmware support a direct method for extending duration. I don't recall whether the TSU-7000 does. If so, you should try that.

I don't think any harm was done by compressing the long form signal into the "900A 006D 0000 0001 0E09 08F7" form. There are ways to disguise a code to prevent that (probably what Lyndel posted is an example of that), but I think that is all the sidetrack from the original problem. I think the disguised code will act just the same as the compressed version.
OP | Post 8 made on Tuesday February 21, 2006 at 08:49
Michael Clarke
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OFF: 0000 006d 0022 0002 015b 00ae 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 069c 015b 0057 0016 0ea9

ON: 0000 006d 0022 0002 015b 00ae 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0016 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 069c 015b 0057 0016 0ea9

HOLD: 0000 006d 0000 0002 015b 0057 0016 0ea9

I used the above On & Off followed by 14 Holds.

Worked great on the TSU-6000
Ever notice when you are driving that everybody going slower than you is an idiot and everyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Post 9 made on Tuesday February 21, 2006 at 09:19
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On February 21, 2006 at 08:49, Michael Clarke said...
HOLD: 0000 006d 0000 0002 015b 0057 0016 0ea9

I used the above On & Off followed by 14 Holds.

Worked great on the TSU-6000

That method can't be made to work on NG Prontos.

If PENG gives you access to direct control of duration, that should do the job more easily. Get rid of the 14 holds and just have the one signal with specified duration.

The 900A form of the signal should work just as well as the 0000 form.

Maybe one of the other experts here will tell you where/how to program duration in PENG's GUI.
OP | Post 10 made on Tuesday February 21, 2006 at 09:32
Michael Clarke
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900A 006D 0000 0001 0E09 08F7

900A 006D 0000 0001 0E09 14EB

The short version code with the duration control works but as a toggle.

Both OFF & ON works as toggles (no discrete)
Ever notice when you are driving that everybody going slower than you is an idiot and everyone going faster than you is a maniac.


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