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Alternating IR code for device key press
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Post 1 made on Friday May 20, 2005 at 17:21
knightrider
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Bush DFTA2 Freeview STB.
Whilst attempting to learn IR code from this device, I have noticed the IR code alternates for the same keypress on the device remote. This has the result that numerous keypresses are required on the Pronto to eventually perform the desired action on the Freeview Decoder. I have tried extending the duration, but this seems to only reduce the amount of keypresses from approx' 5 to 3. Does anyone know if it is possible to have 2 IR codes taught to the same button on the Pronto, but toggle between them to alternate the code. Any suggestions would be gratefully recieved.

The following is the IR code for 'CHAN-'
First keypress:
0000 006c 0000 0009 0020 0020 0041 0041
0041 0041 0041 0041 0041 0020 0020 0041
0041 0041 0020 0020 0020 0ccc
Second keypress:
0000 006c 0000 000a 0020 0020 0020 0020
0020 0020 0041 0041 0041 0041 0041 0020
0020 0041 0041 0041 0020 0020 0020 0ccc
Post 2 made on Friday May 20, 2005 at 19:09
johnsfine
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That's an RC5 signal. I'm not sure why it didn't get converted automatically to the form where the alternation works. But it's not too hard to convert them manually. Once in this form, the alternation will work.

5000 006c 0000 0001 0015 000b
OP | Post 3 made on Saturday May 21, 2005 at 12:24
knightrider
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Thanks for the help Johnsfine. The IR code I posted was in fact 'chan 9' as your code directs (sorry for the goof!) is there a rule of thumb on how to convert manually.
I have tried converting a 'chan+' to RC5 in advanced properties, but the 'converted' code now changes the TV to channel 0 !!! instead of the STB to increase by one channel. What system & command values should I use?
Post 4 made on Saturday May 21, 2005 at 13:17
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System is 21 for the command you posted. Probably all the signals for this device use that same system.

The command number for a digit is usually just the number of that digit.

The signal you posted was command number 11, so I'm surprised that you say it functions as "chan 9".

You can use the JP1 group's version of the IrTool program to decode Pronto Hex and get the system and command numbers.
OP | Post 5 made on Sunday May 22, 2005 at 17:46
knightrider
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Thanks for the help 'Johnsfine', IRTool & DecodeIR.dll worked perfectly. I have now regained the control I was after from this superb remote.
Post 6 made on Sunday May 22, 2005 at 18:02
Lyndel McGee
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It is refreshing to see a new member who has the ability and will dig into the bits and bytes to understand what the remote does.

Welcome aboard.

Lyndel
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OP | Post 7 made on Monday May 23, 2005 at 11:28
knightrider
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Thanks, it was touch & go for a while whether the Freeview box was destined for the bin, but with a resource like this most things must be possible.
Post 8 made on Sunday September 25, 2005 at 16:47
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I think I'm having a similar problem with my codes foe a JVC DVD player. Originally I had a RU970 and every thing worked fine. I've now got a RU950 and I imported the codes and now I have to press a key on the pronto twice to get anything to happen. Well not quite, it does seem that if I press a direction key with only a very short interval between presses it responds to each press. But if I pause or leave the unit it then goes back to requiring two presses.

If I use Test IR from within Pronto Edit everything seems to work fine.

I did try relearning some codes but I seemed to be getting exactly the same things as I had already.

Some example codes are:

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0000 006D 0001 0011 0140 00A1 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 0013 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 0013 0015 0013 0015 0013 0015 0013 0015 003C 0015 0013 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 02C0

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0000 006D 0001 0011 0140 00A1 0015 003B 0015 003B 0015 003B 0015 003B 0015 0013 0015 003B 0015 003B 0015 003B 0015 003B 0015 0013 0015 0013 0015 0013 0015 003B 0015 0013 0015 003B 0015 003B 0015 0295

I've downloaded IRTools - but I don't understand what I should be doing with them, I can decode one of the above hex codes for example, but then what? how do I transform it to the other form?
Post 9 made on Sunday September 25, 2005 at 21:29
Lyndel McGee
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This code will most likely not work as it has only 1 non-repeat pair followed by 17 (0011 is hexadecimal for decimal value of 17) repeating pairs (See Barry Gordon's IR document in the Pronto Files Section [Link: remotecentral.com]).

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0000 006D 0001 0011 0140 00A1 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 0013 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 0013 0015 0013 0015 0013 0015 0013 0015 003C 0015 0013 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 02C0

This code will probably work.

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0000 006D 0000 0012 0140 00A1 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 0013 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 0013 0015 0013 0015 0013 0015 0013 0015 003C 0015 0013 0015 003C 0015 003C 0015 02C0

Notice how I simply decremented the non-repeat pair count and added 1 to the repeat pair count. Please note that these numbers are hexadecimal. See Windows Calculator in Scientific mode should you need a decimal to hex converter.
Lyndel McGee
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