And, IMHO, a separate files section as the current flavors of the Philips and Marantz software don't allow sharing of PCFs. I have not heard anything about convergence of the software to support image conversions, etc.. Do you know anything else.

I second that motion. The Pronto NG (TSU3000/RU950) should have a forum separate from the ProntoPro NG (TSU7000/RU980) These devices have separate features, firmware, and PE-NG editors, so it's time to separate the forums as well.

I don't think separate file areas are needed since the "non-compatibility" of PCF files isn't actually absolute and is easily corrected.

As for forums... it was never a problem for the Pronto / ProntoPro, and I'm still hopeful that Philips will merge the two NG programs at some point (there's so little reason for them to remain separate). Although I guess less hopeful than I was a year ago.

Daniel,

I too am optimistic. However, with releases coming out almost every 6 months to 1 year, I have to wonder if they'll ever converge.

I still would like to see variables and some other things before they move on. With the intro of this newest non-pc remote, I have to wonder what the End Of Life is for the 3000 and 7000? We've only had the 7000 for 1 year so I expect it to live at least 2-3 more years.

You know, somewhere, probably in this forum, I had the lifespan of all the original Pronto & Marantz models... hmm, I should look for it.

Edit: ah, here we go... [Link: remotecentral.com]

I think this should be mostly updated...

Oct 1998 - Pronto TS-1000 1mb (End Dec 2000)
May 1999 - Marantz RC5000 1mb (End Aug 2000)
Oct 1999 - Pronto RU890 Euro 1mb (End Jan 2001)
Aug 2000 - Marantz RC5000i 2mb (End Jan 2002)
Nov 2000 - Pronto TSU2000 2mb (End Jan 2003)
Jan 2001 - Pronto RU940 Euro 2mb (End Apr 2003)
May 2001 - Yamaha RAV-2000 2mb (Current?)
Jun 2001 - ProntoPro TSU6000 8mb (End Dec 2003)
Sep 2001 - ProntoPro RU970 Euro 8mb (End Mar 2004)
Oct 2001 - Onkyo CHAD 2mb (Current?)
Oct 2001 - ProntoNEO TSU500 1mb (Current)
Nov 2001 - Marantz RC5200 2mb (End Jan 2004)
Dec 2001 - Marantz RC3200 Neo 1mb (Current)
Jan 2002 - Marantz RC9200 8mb (End Oct 2004)
Mar 2002 - ProntoNEO RU930 1mb (Current)
Jan 2003 - Pronto NG TSU3000 4mb (Current)
Apr 2003 - Pronto NG RU950 Euro 8mb (Current)
Mar 2003 - iPronto TSi6400 (Current)
Dec 2003 - ProntoPro NG TSU7000 (Current)
Jan 2004 - Marantz RC5400 8mb (Current)
Mar 2004 - ProntoPro NG RU980 Euro 32mb (Current)
Oct 2004 - Marantz RC9500 48mb (Current)

If Philips "moves on" from pc based remotes do to market demand are there shops/individuals out there who can repair the Pronto 7000 for at least 5-6 years?

Daniel: cool table


yes, but most stuff are the same. Anyone that used one editor can help someone with questions on the other. I am not big in dividing effort, just look at it this way, most of the people with experience here have a 7000, either they will stick to the 7000 forum and the 3000 users will be at a loss or they will visit two forums


me too


I don't think they will drop the PC based remotes, I don't know the market, but it is the one they created and look at all the players in it now and don't forget they are probably still the king of the touchscreen market.