Is it an RC5000 or Pronto

It is a Pronto...

Adam

Do you actually have the latest firmware installed on your Pronto? Earlier firmware does not support hidden panels.

Yes. I guess if somebody could give me an example of one that works, I can just compare mine to that one.

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Anyone?

Where exactly are these visible hidden panels?

Adam,

Something I've noticed about hidden frames - you can't hide the first frame in a device. Even if it's marked as hidden, it'll display.

I think I've also managed, at times, to create a situation where, if all panels in a device are hidden, they all are displayed (revealed), even though they're marked hidden - but I can't duplicate this anomaly at the moment.

I'll send you my CCF. My TV, DVD, VCR, CD, CDs, and Amp devices all have hidden panels that work as advertised.

In my message above, where I referred to "frames", I meant "panels".

what edit version? Older version don't really support hidden pages.

Hidden panels was one of the first features added -- it's available starting with ProntoEdit v1.03 and RC5000 Setup v1.02.1.

I think I have done what you are trying. I created pages of buttons, learned all of my codes onto these,
aliased them to the buttons that I wanted people to access.

I hid mine by placing a blank page at the front and placing under the macro bar rather than the device bar.

Take a look, its on page 5 of the files and its Marc Burge's file

I would like to thank you all for responding. Tom, you are right, these things are crazy.

I do have one more question:

Is there a way to take them completly out of the device bars?

Not sure what you mean by "device bars". But my first guess at an answer would be, yes, delete them (whatever "them" is).

But, if by "them" you mean the hidden panels, and by "device bars" you mean device menu on the Pronto screen - then I don't know what you mean, because no panels show on the device menu. Devices do.

Maybe this will help - referring to my CCF...

Originally I had a device called "Receiver". In it I created several panels of buttons. The panels contained buttons with codes that were learned from the receiver's original remote, buttons with codes obtained from Remote Central (like discrete codes), and buttons with codes learned from a One-For-All remote.

I named the Receiver panels "Learned", "RC", and "OFA", respectively. Then I aliased everything related to receiver functions to them.

But I didn't want a "Receiver" device in the Pronto's device menu because in my house we refer to the receiver box as the "Amp", and we refer to the tuner section of the receiver as the "Radio".

Plus, I didn't want the Learned, RC, and OFA panels to show on the Pronto display, ever. They're used only for aliasing.

Trouble is, you can't hide a device - so the only way for me to get the Receiver device off the device menu was to delete it. But, in doing so, I'd lose all the panels under it, and all those crucial codes.

Also, since all the panels in the Receiver device were hidden, they would show up on the Pronto in the Receiver device no matter what I did. By the way, hidden panels show in the left window pane in ProntoEdit with brackets around them, i.e.:

Receiver
  [Learned]
  [RC]
  [OFA]

So, the only way for me to delete the Receiver device without losing its panels, and to make the hidden panels really hidden, was to move those panels to another device, like the Amp device. I did this by simply dragging and dropping them in the left ProntoEdit window pane.

Fortunately, ProntoEdit is smart enough to re-reference, or fix, all the aliases made to the hidden panels that I moved, so nothing was lost.

After moving the panels from it, I deleted the Receiver (now empty) device.

So, the Amp device now looks like this in ProntoEdit:

Amp
  Main
  [Learned]
  [RC]
  [OFA]

On the Pronto display the Receiver device no longer shows because it doesn't exist anymore. The hidden panels are really hidden, because the first panel in the Amp device, "Main", is not a hidden panel. When I open the Amp device on the Pronto, the Main panel shows, and there are no scrolling arrows - so there's no way for anyone to get to the hidden panels.

I don't know if this sheds any new light on the situation, but I think this may be something like what you were trying to do.

I think that is it....thank you very much for taking the time to reply to that in such great detail!