Just a quick one...

What I want to do is run my "Everything Off" macro at 3am every morning, to stop me waking up to everything every morning after the night before's drinking session. Fine, no problem with that.

Is there any way of putting an over-ride in for those nights when I'm actually up watching the telly? Say, have the Pronto beep and have a "keep everything on" button, that, if it isn't pressed within a few minutes runs the "everything off" macro.

Keeping everything on would be easy, I'm just trying to find ways of getting it to automatically turn everything off if I have fallen asleep before everything else.

Cheers

No way, sorry...

because Pronto lacks the feature "input timeout", so it can't stop "keep everything on" question automaticly to run the "everything off" macro.

That's what I figured - just wondering whether there was some workaround that I hadn't thought of.

Oh well, maybe in an upgrade...

Thanks

Didn't know whether there was any way of interrupting a macro when it was in progress? Since then you could run a macro that displays a page with a "Do not turn everything off" button on it, put a delay of a few minutes on, and laumch a "everything off" macro.

If a button on that page could interrupt the initial macro when it was performing its delay command, then that would work, but I'm thinking that isn't possible yet?

I think one of the hard buttons cancels a running macro so you /could/ do this...
Laurie

How about, if you're awake - jam the pronto down the side of the couch, so its OFF signal goes nowhere. Perhaps another timer can Beep at you one minute earlier to remind you to jam it.

What if you set a timer at 3am which beeps and jumps to the 'everything is about to turn off' page.

Have another timer which switches everything off at 3:01am.

Have a button on the page which starts a 90second delay.

Would the delay run through the timer and stop it activating, or would the timer override the delay?

I like Jon's idea... Direct the signal away from the equipment you are wanting to turn-off..

I was thinking along the same lines as Richard, but looking more at cancelling a delayed action. Hmm. Using a delay to cancel a timer. I'll go back and see if a Timer still works when a delay is in progress. That's a good idea - the timer may either run as normal, run a little late, or not run at all. I didn't think of it from that angle.

If this is not successful, the Pronto may have to be relegated to trying to operate the insides of my furniture between five minutes to and past three every morning I decide to stay up.

Cheers guys, food for thought.

Can't you just turn everything on after it was turned off? ;-)

Seriously: How about two timers. "Timer 1" beep and jump to macro side panel X @2:55. Panel X has one button "Timer 2" all off @3:00. When you don't want the timer all you need to do is go into edit mode and cross of the day. Then once 3:00 has passed free up the day.

The thing about the timer feature that bugs me:

You can put timer actions onto indivual buttons, but no one has figure how to make use of them that way. The fact that they can be included makes me suspect there IS a way to create a button, that ONLY WHEN PUSHED will start a timer sequence to perhaps set off a shut down macro.

If this could be figured out, then you'd only have to use timed macros when you wanted to, instead of the default daily/weekly/whatever.

Anyone actually proven timers CAN'T be used on buttons?

Just a thought.

Dave

David
I am not sure if I understand your question correctly, Since a timer is a action the only place it can be put is on a button, where else would you put it? I guess they could have created a whole new beast called timers, but then, I would assume, it would be harder to integrate with RC5000 CCFs. And if they were not on buttons how would you find them (on the Pronto and Pronto edit) so that you can edit them?

I think what David meant is that you can put timers on any old buttons, rather than just buttons on the timer macro panel.

This always bugged me too! This makes it /seem/ like there should be a way to cause a timer to fire only when a particular button is pushed but after spending a /lot/ of time playing I am reasonably sure that you cannot..

This in my opinion renders the timers pretty much redundant except for very specialised applications such as an alarm 'clock' in fact that is basically /it/.. They could have been /so/ much more!

Laurie

I'd thought that too about the timer. It seemed illogical to put a timer on to a button, when the button and the timer have nothing to do with each other at all. Pressing the button does not activate the timer, running the timer doesn't press the button.

I take the earlier suggestion about crossing off the day, but I was really looking for a one button solution where I just presss a "don't turn everything off - I'm still up, watching the tv, and not drunk or anything" button which does the equivalent of Nicolas Cage in Face/Off cancelling the timer (only this time it doesn't turn off the tv instead of blowing up a city). Well, something like that, anyway.

If you can't interrupt a delay, or cancel a timer quickly, then I guess the best solution is to just ram the Pronto down the side of the chair for a few minutes. That is, until a new wave of software is released with improved timer facilities. That reminds me - A Pronto with wav support would be nice...

(if not memory hungry).

Please excuse my going on - I live in Peterborough UK, and our Beer Festival has just opened tonight (2nd largest in country). Feeling a little dizzy.

Before we actually got to see how timers functioned, I was assuming we'd have to press the button to enable it. I then wanted to be able to see a list of all active timers, and have the option to remove any I didn't want. Alas, the actual implementation was a bit more simplistic.