Well after *many* hours setting up a CCF to control a home theater and whole house audio it almost works. The Casanova has discrete selection for *almost* everything and one of items I need it doesn't support. The issue is selecting what source will play through the Tape Out / Zone 2 output. I even have the RS232 input for it in case I had to go that route but guess what? While the rs232 supports many more discrete commands it does not for Tape Out selection!

The way it's done is a discrete command to get to the Tape selector and then its a series of button presses to scroll through to the input you want. I've worked out Pronto logic to keep track of the states (no small task!) but the issue is that the IR selection through scrolling is very unreliable. I've experimented with delays with mediocre success only. It seems that when you increase delays to as much as 500ms or more the Casanova thinks you hit it twice. With short delays it seems like the a subsequent transmit cuts short a previous commnad some how making it a bit more trustworthy.

I've read all the info about hacking the code with no success. Here is an example of one of the scroll codes that is learned with a VERY short button press on the Casanova remote.

0000 0073 0024 0000 0020 0021 0040 0042 0040 0021 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0041 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 001b 0d27 0020 0021 0040 0042 0040 0021 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0041 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 001b 0d27 0020 0021 0040 0042 0040 0021 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0041 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 001b 0021

and here are the codes when you hold down the same scroll button:

0000 0073 0000 000c 0020 0021 0040 0042 0040 0021 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0041 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 001b 0d26

I believe the answer lies somewhere in here but I'm stumped. ANy ideas?

Thanks...

I tried your codes in IRTool. It did not recognize the long code, but it shortened the short code to:

0000 0073 0000 0002 0020 0020 0040 0040

You should experiment with IRTool and see what it can do for you.

That short code won't work. IR Tool doesn't understand Panasonic codes.

When I put the short code into IRTool it told me that it is a Kenwood/Yamaha code. However, it did not understand the long code.

It's mis-identifing it. You put any Panasonic code in there and it'll show it as Kenwood, device 0 command 0. The reason the long code doesn't work in IR Tool is because it's an "unclean" learn.

thanks for the interest and response guys.

Digging into the CasaNova manual reports that the system uses Phillips RC5 codes. As looked through other learned codes I find that indeed Pronto edit interpreted them and stored them as RC5 but not for all of them. I'll try relearning and have a look at IRtools.

Robert,

Do all of the codes that did record as RC5 codes have the same System Code?
If you are not sure what I mean, email me the hex code from a button that shows an RC5 code in the action list.

Eric,
Yes. They recorded as System Code 16 (10 hex). This agrees with the Theta Manual. In fact the manual lists all the codes for each button as well so I replaced all the codes using the RC5 function in Pronto Edit. They seem work ok. The problem is still a timing issue when sending a series of commands i.e. send 5 "UP" commands and the processor moves 6!. Most annoying and worse unpredicatble.

The successful learned codes look like this:
5000 0073 0000 0001 0010 0014

The Pronto edit function writes codes like this:
5000 0000 0000 0001 0010 0014
I've edited them all to include the carrier freq.

It seems that ProntoEdit leaves out the carrier frequency?

No, I beleive that the designation 5000 at the beginning means that the codes is RC5. Then the numbers afterwards are interpreted differently by the Pronto/RC5000.

Do codes generated by the RC5 button in ProntoEdit still show this odd operation?

Eric,
I've been busy...

I set all the codes using the RC5 button in Pronto edit and the values supplied in the manual. They all work as expected and the unreliable scrolling stills occurs.

The CasaNova has a remote input jack for IR. I have an external IR receiver that goes into a Xantech IR network. I'm thinking of trying that route assuming that bypassing the IR detector will be more reliable. Deep down I think there is a timing issue in the detector/selector circuit. Sometimes even pressing the hard buttons on the panel results in multiple scrolls per push. All Theta products seem to behave this way, so I'm told

The other option is RS232. There is a company that make an IR receiver box that listens to IR and spits out RS232. Pretty neat. $89 for the box and $200 to program the RS232 codes...last resort.

Anybody have discrete on and off codes for the casanova? If so, can you post here or email to [email protected]

Thx

Jeff

Jeff,
Sorry, the service manager at Theta tells me that discrete on/off is only avaliable through the RS232 interface. I ordered it with my unit and am now contemplating using it. Albeit with some extra hardware of some sort...
_bob

Robert (or anyone else):

If you or anyone else out there has a ccf file that can control a Casa Nova, I'd really appreciate a copy! I contacted Theta, and they said that they didn't have the codes available, which seems to contradict the information you got. I don't think I got through to the right person.

- Dave