Ah, sound fields. You can't actually do much with those codes. I can also say there's no discrete mute codes for Sony receivers (well, there's something, but you have to go through the Control-A1 interface as for Sony VisionTouch receivers).

Daniel, thanks anyway for the try.... those soundfields have created more problems than any other codes. Even the SAME sound fields for their receivers don't work on their preamp! :-( Leave it to Sony...

adding fuel to the fire....
Iv'e tried to find i.r. codes for qwest digital cable
for 2 weeks.Tried all 55 codes available with my Replay
and none work.Customer service? HA!

I'd be willing to help with designing and implimenting a database of IR Codes for various devices that could be made available via the web if someone else can maintain the info.

Kent

What's happening on building the database?

I've designed a little gizmo that will let you record an IR or RF code as a .wav file and have written software that converts the .wav file into a Pronto CCF code. Would this be of any help?

Kent, you've managed to respond to a thread that started 3 years and was last answered nearly 2 years ago.

Since then an area has been added to the Files section specifically for discrete codes (which are presented in hex format). It is very easy to use.

Daniel and all:

There seems to be a feeling in this thread that there are discrete codes available for EVERYTHING - we just need to get the info from the manufacturers or figure it out ourselves.

Isn't it a FACT that not everything HAS discrete codes? Those are like programs written by a software engineer, that are then built into the remote interface and system control chips. If they only made a toggle power command that can be picked up by the unit, and in the unit's firmware (ICs) it translates that from on to off to on.... then there is no way to MANUFACTURE a code that will do something that the firmware was not written to understand.

Isn't this the case? Isn't chasing down discretes for EVERYTHING a lost cause?

=Tom

Absolutely correct Tom. There are many devices which do not have discrete codes and no amount of querying the manufacturer or testing out every possible code is going to find discrete codes which were not designed in by the original equipment designer. It is true that there are sometimes discrete codes which are not visible to the casual user (and may not be on the original remote) but someone usually tracks these down soon after a piece of equipment is released.

Well you all are not going to like this, but you can purchase the entire code database for about $100,000+ US, I know this because I got in contact with the company that ultimately owns all the codes! That’s right Owns them all and they have license agreements with all the big companies to use there codes, that’s why Sony and their ilk do not want to give the codes out because there license forbids it.

You have to think about this carefully, all these companies use the same basic IR structure,
But who owns the patent on structure?

When the fella I talked to found out that I just wanted his code base and I did not want to hire his company to build / design an All for One kind of remote to be sold by the millions he blew me right off with the big middle finger following.

The big phrase here is “NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT”

Sorry for the bad news.

So, what's the name of this company that you say owns all of the codes? And, through what leverage do they own all of the codes?

Just curious...

I doubt that any company holds a patent on IR coding technology. It's been around long enough that any patents would have expired years ago.

There are companies like UEI and X-10 who have huge databases of IR codes. X-10 says they manufactured UEI's remotes and that they have the largest database. UEI claims they own the largest database.

Theater Builders, you have it somewhat wrong.

As Dave says, UEI and others have collected databases of IR Codes from multiple manufacturers. Companies, such as Philips, buy a licence to incorporate these codes into their universal remotes (like the 2000 and 6000).

UEI owns the database, not the codes, and need to protect the effort they have gone to to collect the codes. Their licensing agreement prevents licensees such as Philips from disclosing the codes they get from UEI to anyone. That's why we can't get at the complete set of codes built into the 2000.

Manufacturers such as Sony have their own codes and can do with them what they like, including letting customers know what the codes are. And giving the codes to UEI to include in their database. There is nothing preventing manufacturers from disclosing their codes to anyone.

here are many code scheems, and a chipset, For instance Philips has created what they call RC5 and a few variants, Sony uses a different scheem, and I think has three or four viraties, NEC has a different scheem.... these companies also sell the the chips to other manufacturers that use them in their equipment (ie. Marantz, Thomson.... use RC5)

What happens like the others said, is that some universal remote control manufacturers have taken the time to learn the different codes and have amassed a large database of codes, then they use that DB in theire remotes and sometimes sell it to others (like UIE did with Philips)

At least one manufacturer makes all their codes available.

[Link: yamaha.com]

could you E-mail me the Sony discrete codes? I would really appreciate that!

[email protected]

Thanks!
Joe