Yes Peter. The list for Discrete code should list the codes that HAVE been found, while the TOAD list should list codes that have NOT been found yet, as well as any notes regarding codes that are KNOWN not to exist... Actually, maybe it should be a single list that is searchable, and it will eventually contain every piece of gear that people own (within reason)... Then, you can search for TOADs, non-TOADs, discrete on/off, etc. Also, it would be great to have links to each code as well.

I still like the idea of getting the manufacturers to provide a list of codes that all their recent product accept. Basically, it would be a large chart, with device model numbers down the side and functions across the top. Inside the chart would be some means to show what the code is... It wouldn't HAVE to be in Pronto Hex format, but the makers should provide information on what the signal looks like that is referenced by the chart.

To make an example, the Sony "On" is code 46 (Hex I assume, but since it's an example, who cares?)... So, 46 would be contained in the chart for the "On" function for each device. Then, notes would be made as to what the carrier frequency is, any lead-in and lead-out codes, and what IR signal comprises a 0 and a 1.

Make sense to me... Anyone willing to start a compiliation of these codes, as well as trying to get them from the makers? I would imagine someone organizing an IR database in a formal sense would be much more likely to get the required information from the makers than just someone wanting the information to program their remote.

Scott,
As a first stage, I would get in touch with all the major manufacturers in the same way as Peter did with Sony and just find out if any of them are forthcoming.

A lot of device control sets are available on this site as well as many discreet codes.

I also believe there is a tool here to search through available codes, though I haven't played with it yet...

LaurieK

All,

I have also gotten the same response from Kenwood regarding their discreet codes as Peter did. What I think we need to do is get in touch with the engineering side of these companies. Again as has been stated before discreet codes may cause some problems with equipment if you don't know what your doing.

Another source of information might be the service manuals for the products, but only "authorized service centers" can get them. Anyone around this thread work in a service center ;)?

Bernie

I am considering buying a Pronto. What wont I be able to do if I dont have the discreet codes? What exactly does that mean? I'm just a newbie, please forgive me for such a elementary question.

It's quite simple, Anthony... Discrete codes will allow you to make macros so that only the devices you are using at the time are on. For example, when you watch a DVD, it will allow your DVD player, TV, and receiver to be on, but your VCR and anything else unused would be off.

Now, you can do this without discrete codes, but it means you have to press a power button for each device you want on each time. The discrete codes allow a true one-button-to-watch experience.

Without discrete codes, you'll either have a single power button to power up the entire system (this allows for a two-button-to-watch experience), or a power button for each device to turn them on manually (a multitude-of-buttons-to-watch experience that defeats the purpose of the Pronto).

How about an example: Let's say you DO have discrete codes, and you've programmed a "Watch a DVD" macro that includes DVD on, receiver on, and TV on. Now, no matter what state your equipment is in (it could be off, or maybe just the TV is on because you were watching TV, etc), when the button is pressed and the macro has finished, your DVD player, Receiver, and TV will all be on. If you tried this with power toggles (what is found normally on remotes that come with devices), whatever was on will be off now. We don't want that!

Now, if you don't have discrete codes, you'll want to make a "main power" switch on the home panel. This will allow you to turn on the entire system, and then you can perform any task once the system is on.

Ok, so this wa a winded explaination, but I hope you understand now!

I have an AllForOne Producer 8, and have requested the advanced codes for my stuff, which contains some descreet codes which I've then shot into my Pronto.

My understanding is that Universal Electronics has a huge database of remote codes; I wonder how they obtain them?

I am not sure if all Sony TVs work in a similar way, but with my 23WF1, I can set up aliases for my channels to the AV inputs. So I can press channel '8' for example, and instead of the tuner, it is set to AV1, with the label DVD (you can also label the AV inputs). Also, you don't need a discrete on, as pressing a channel number turns the TV on if it isn't already, and switched to that channel. So I have all my relevant AV inputs mapped to single digit channel numbers.

Now all I am looking for are discrete commands for 'wide' and 'zoom'.

I've been havig problems with getting descrete codes too. I do have a Sony emulator that gives me descrete codes for most if not all Sony equipment. It's a small box that runs on a 9 volt battery. I also have on for a Mitsubishi. If anybody knows if there is any more boxes like this let me know.

Mark,

Where did you get this Sony emulator? I have never heard of such a thing before.

Does anyone know of discrete codes for a Sony DA30-ES Receiver that will allow switching between functions, ie DVD, VCR, Tuner, etc. My Pronto has not been able to capture them.

Scott the emulator was shown to me from a guy I used to work with. I dont know where he got it from but I'll ask him.

Scott my friend doesn't know where "His" friend got it but he gave it to me and it works very good. I wish I could tell you were to get one. I will keep looking to see if I can dig up another one.

I never did hear back from JVC on my request for discrete codes. Personally I would think the manufactures would like to provide us with the codes. I know personally I will not buy a product for my home theatre that does not have known discrete codes. If more people have the same attitude and make it know through this forum and others maybe the manufactures would be more willing to share and support us. After all the Pronto is on back order everywhere I know of. Due to it’s huge success I’m sure that others will soon have competing products.

Mark that emulator what does it look like do you have a picture of this box that we can see it.

Can you open this box up and tell us what the
components are if possible.

I have (and continue) to compile a list of all know codes for my equipment. I have used a combination of learned codes, ProntoUtil, and IRPanels, and ccf from others in this forum to flesh out the list further.

I conservatively have 50% (or more) of all of the Sony TV codes. Keep in mind that not ALL Sony TV's accept and operate one every code. Netherless the list is reasonably complete to test out againest your own TV. As more and more individuals try stuff out and include there own codes, the list will grow faster.

I will post a pointer to this document in the next few days (I'm still compiling it) but for anyone interested in a copy sooner can contact me directly.